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From: Adrian Levi on 30 Dec 2007 05:40
On 30/12/2007, Celejar <celejar(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0600
> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson(a)cox.net> wrote:
>
> > "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and
> > the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor."
> > Wernher von Braun
>
> Reminds me of Asimov's "The Feeling of Power":
> http://downlode.org/Etext/power.html
>
> Celejar

Thanks for posting that, I really enjoyed reading that. I Asimov was a
forward thinker. To write that in his time(1958), even now it has
context and is believable...

Adrian

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<erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to
ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my
apartment it is.


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From: Mark Grieveson on 30 Dec 2007 13:30
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:32:05 +0000 (UTC)
debian-user-digest-request(a)lists.debian.org wrote:

> > Netscape Navigator 9.0.0.5 for Linux has just been released.
> > Works fine, looks good.
> > Get it here:
> >
> > http://browser.netscape.com/downloads
> >
> > After unpacking, just run ./navigator inside the folder.
> > No interference with the package manager.

That's good. Does this Linux version come with the IE engine for use
with sites that only work properly with IE? I may install it just to
see (though I dislike installing source packages, especially if they
don't come with a make uninstall option).

Mark


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From: Kelly Clowers on 30 Dec 2007 14:00
On Dec 30, 2007 10:19 AM, Mark Grieveson <dg135(a)torfree.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:32:05 +0000 (UTC)
> debian-user-digest-request(a)lists.debian.org wrote:
>
> > > Netscape Navigator 9.0.0.5 for Linux has just been released.
> > > Works fine, looks good.
> > > Get it here:
> > >
> > > http://browser.netscape.com/downloads
> > >
> > > After unpacking, just run ./navigator inside the folder.
> > > No interference with the package manager.
>
> That's good. Does this Linux version come with the IE engine for use
> with sites that only work properly with IE? I may install it just to
> see (though I dislike installing source packages, especially if they
> don't come with a make uninstall option).

No, Netscape 8 was the only one with the bizarre option of using
Trident, and it just used the system version, rather than including it.

Truly incompatible websites are few and far between. Of the few
"incompatible" websites I encounter, most are just forcing incompatibility
by looking at the user-agent string. There is an extension called
user-agent switcher that lets FF identify as IE or any other browser.

If a web site is incompatible, you should write to them an point out
that they are shutting out over 15% of American users and more like
20%-25% of European users.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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From: Marc Shapiro on 30 Dec 2007 14:10
Adrian Levi wrote:
> On 30/12/2007, Celejar <celejar(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0600
>> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson(a)cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and
>>> the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor."
>>> Wernher von Braun
>>>
>> Reminds me of Asimov's "The Feeling of Power":
>> http://downlode.org/Etext/power.html
>>
>> Celejar
>>
>
> Thanks for posting that, I really enjoyed reading that. I Asimov was a
> forward thinker. To write that in his time(1958), even now it has
> context and is believable...
>
But at only 49 years old it is unlikely to be out of copyright! A lot
of the items on that site may be in the public domain, but an Asimov
short story is unlikely to be one of them. I see nothing on the site
that suggests that this individual has checked for copyright on the text
that he has posted. He only says that the items are things that
interest him.

I know that most people don't think about these things, but my wife is a
librarian, so she always does, and it has gotten me into the habit of
thinking about it, too.

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From: Adrian Levi on 30 Dec 2007 15:40
On 31/12/2007, Marc Shapiro <mshapiro_42(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Adrian Levi wrote:
> > On 30/12/2007, Celejar <celejar(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0600
> >> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson(a)cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and
> >>> the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor."
> >>> Wernher von Braun
> >>>
> >> Reminds me of Asimov's "The Feeling of Power":
> >> http://downlode.org/Etext/power.html
> >>
> >> Celejar
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for posting that, I really enjoyed reading that. I Asimov was a
> > forward thinker. To write that in his time(1958), even now it has
> > context and is believable...
> >
> But at only 49 years old it is unlikely to be out of copyright! A lot
> of the items on that site may be in the public domain, but an Asimov
> short story is unlikely to be one of them. I see nothing on the site
> that suggests that this individual has checked for copyright on the text
> that he has posted. He only says that the items are things that
> interest him.
>
> I know that most people don't think about these things, but my wife is a
> librarian, so she always does, and it has gotten me into the habit of
> thinking about it, too.
>
> --
> Marc Shapiro
> mshapiro_42(a)yahoo.com

It's also available on this website and does attribute copyright, go figure.
http://www.themathlab.com/writings/short%20stories/feeling.htm

Adrian

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ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my
apartment it is.


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