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From: Carlos Rocha on 25 Oct 2009 21:31 Hi Ginny, Sorry to jump in with, but what do you mean be "built in"? you want it to embed it in a form like a regular ActiveX control? do you think it's possible with fyiReporter? Again in topic: http://www.datadynamics.com/default.aspx .NET and ActiveX http://www.subsystems.com/rewp.htm Carlos > > I've suggested Reporting Services in the past, and my office does use > it to build reports for some clients who prefer it over Crystal, but > the users who want something "built it" don't seem to be interested in > that. >
From: Stephen Quinn on 25 Oct 2009 22:21 Ginny > my users would. Thanks for the info though - having source in Delphi.NET > would also make it somewhat less attractive if I wanted to modify it. The .NET version is in written in C# > Yes it is - you'll need Delphi/.NET to compile it. Maybe I should have said Delphi and/or .NET to compile it<g> I've only used the Delphi version. CYA Steve
From: Geoff Schaller on 25 Oct 2009 22:31 Well they either want to build their own reports or they don't. At some level they need to learn to use a tool, working at a low level (with direct SQL) or high level 4GL like Report Builder. Report Builder is nice in that the design surface is superior to Crystal and most other reporting tools. It is very easy to learn. Its best feature is that the developer provides tables and columns in a plain English format, thus hiding the complexity of the tables and their column names. How many times do we have stupid 6 or 8 letter names for some business concept? RB converts all this user friendly terminology and adds all the auto-summing for row or column groups etc. We gave this to two County IT departments in Georgia to play with (their regular SQL guys) and they loved it instantly. They were able to get their power users designing their own reports within 1-2 hours. They built the model and exposed only the data they wanted users to see or manipulate. The users loved it because their tables and columns structures were instantly readable and came pre-loaded with group totals, page totals and all those kinds of things. They also found adding simple charts easier than Excel. Geoff "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message news:00432fdf$0$16794$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: > Hi Geoff, > > I've suggested Reporting Services in the past, and my office does use it to > build reports for some clients who prefer it over Crystal, but the users who > want something "built it" don't seem to be interested in that. > > -- > > Ginny Caughey > www.wasteworks.com > > > > > "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message > news:9w4Fm.49932$ze1.14339(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > > Ginny, > > > > Ok, misunderstood what you meant. So how about Report Builder 2.0 (and now > > 3.0 is in CTP)? Under this scenario though the user definitely needs RS > > but this is a very powerful option and far superior to ReportPro. It can > > be used with either Native or SP Integrated modes and has the familiar > > Office 2007 ribbon. It is quite easy to use and quite easy to train users > > to work with them. You (as the developer) have to build the model but this > > is relatively painless and it gives power users an excellent design > > surface. > > > > Geoff > > > > > > > > "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message > > news:00430129$0$8068$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: > > > > >> Hi Geoff, > >> > >> Actually I do use the MS reportViewer control already for reports I've > >> created, and I agree it works well and fast! What I need is something end > >> users can use to create their own reports though. > >> > >> I tried both fyiReporter and Fast Reports. Of the 2, I'd probably prefer > >> Fast Reports (even though the redistributable version I'd need would be > >> about $400) because you can just write C# (or VB) in the report writer - > >> only I pretty much have that covered already. But for my users, I think > >> the > >> free fyiReporter would probably work better, so I spent about a half hour > >> changing the C# source very slightly to use the same connection string as > >> my > >> apps from a config file and added it as a menu option from my VO app. My > >> staff liked fyiReporter pretty well, although not as well as Crystal, and > >> since they'll be the ones supporting it... > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Ginny Caughey > >> www.wasteworks.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message > >> news:gl3Fm.49916$ze1.34082(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > >> > > >> > Ginny, > >> > > >> > What is wrong with the reportViewer Control for MS SQL Server. It > >> > executes > >> > rdlc reports without the need for a reporting server installed anywhere > >> > and works directly off MS SQL. We have multiple data set reports being > >> > called from VO or C#. Hence you have the full power of MS Reporting > >> > Services without needing a report server. > >> > > >> > Is this what you mean? > >> > > >> > Geoff > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message > >> > news:003ebb60$0$16932$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: > >> > > >> > > >> >> Does anybody have a linkable report creation tool they like? .NET is > >> >> fine > >> >> or > >> >> ActiveX, etc. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> > >> >> Ginny Caughey > >> >> www.wasteworks.com > >> > >> > > > >
From: Jorge on 26 Oct 2009 06:44 On 25 oct, 20:41, "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.onl...(a)wasteworks.com> wrote: > Jorge, > > I just run the RdlDesigner.exe which is part of fyiReporter using WinExec.. I > modified the new report data source wizard to already know the connection > string, but other than that and a change to the title bar and version > number, nothing else. > > -- > > Ginny Caugheywww.wasteworks.com > > "Jorge" <jorgeaccine...(a)dextrasistemas.com.ar> wrote in message > > news:facea8d8-73f4-463b-929f-3b509936f168(a)e18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On 25 oct, 19:43, "Geoff Schaller" <geo...(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> > > wrote: > >> Ginny, > > >> Ok, misunderstood what you meant. So how about Report Builder 2.0 (and > >> now 3.0 is in CTP)? Under this scenario though the user definitely needs > >> RS but this is a very powerful option and far superior to ReportPro. It > >> can be used with either Native or SP Integrated modes and has the > >> familiar Office 2007 ribbon. It is quite easy to use and quite easy to > >> train users to work with them. You (as the developer) have to build the > >> model but this is relatively painless and it gives power users an > >> excellent design surface. > > >> Geoff > > >> "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.onl...(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message > > >>news:00430129$0$8068$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: > > >> > Hi Geoff, > > >> > Actually I do use the MS reportViewer control already for reports I've > >> > created, and I agree it works well and fast! What I need is something > >> > end > >> > users can use to create their own reports though. > > >> > I tried both fyiReporter and Fast Reports. Of the 2, I'd probably > >> > prefer > >> > Fast Reports (even though the redistributable version I'd need would be > >> > about $400) because you can just write C# (or VB) in the report > >> > writer - > >> > only I pretty much have that covered already. But for my users, I think > >> > the > >> > free fyiReporter would probably work better, so I spent about a half > >> > hour > >> > changing the C# source very slightly to use the same connection string > >> > as my > >> > apps from a config file and added it as a menu option from my VO app.. > >> > My > >> > staff liked fyiReporter pretty well, although not as well as Crystal, > >> > and > >> > since they'll be the ones supporting it... > > >> > -- > > >> > Ginny Caughey > >> >www.wasteworks.com > > >> > "Geoff Schaller" <geo...(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message > >> >news:gl3Fm.49916$ze1.34082(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > >> > > Ginny, > > >> > > What is wrong with the reportViewer Control for MS SQL Server. It > >> > > executes > >> > > rdlc reports without the need for a reporting server installed > >> > > anywhere > >> > > and works directly off MS SQL. We have multiple data set reports > >> > > being > >> > > called from VO or C#. Hence you have the full power of MS Reporting > >> > > Services without needing a report server. > > >> > > Is this what you mean? > > >> > > Geoff > > >> > > "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.onl...(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in > >> > > message > >> > >news:003ebb60$0$16932$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: > > >> > >> Does anybody have a linkable report creation tool they like? .NET is > >> > >> fine > >> > >> or > >> > >> ActiveX, etc. > > >> > >> Thanks, > > >> > >> -- > > >> > >> Ginny Caughey > >> > >>www.wasteworks.com-Ocultar texto de la cita - > > >> - Mostrar texto de la cita - > > > Hello all > > > I would like to try fyiReporter but I do not know how to implement > > it > > Can somebody give me a guideline , which are the steps > > o some reference ? > > > Thanks > > Jorge Accinelli- Ocultar texto de la cita - > > - Mostrar texto de la cita - Ginny Thanks, I will try it Jorge
From: Ginny Caughey on 26 Oct 2009 07:20
Geoff, You don't have to sell me on Report Builder - I'm sold already. ;-) -- Ginny Caughey www.wasteworks.com "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message news:3S7Fm.49989$ze1.19550(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > Well they either want to build their own reports or they don't. > > At some level they need to learn to use a tool, working at a low level > (with direct SQL) or high level 4GL like Report Builder. Report Builder is > nice in that the design surface is superior to Crystal and most other > reporting tools. It is very easy to learn. Its best feature is that the > developer provides tables and columns in a plain English format, thus > hiding the complexity of the tables and their column names. How many times > do we have stupid 6 or 8 letter names for some business concept? RB > converts all this user friendly terminology and adds all the auto-summing > for row or column groups etc. > > We gave this to two County IT departments in Georgia to play with (their > regular SQL guys) and they loved it instantly. They were able to get their > power users designing their own reports within 1-2 hours. They built the > model and exposed only the data they wanted users to see or manipulate. > The users loved it because their tables and columns structures were > instantly readable and came pre-loaded with group totals, page totals and > all those kinds of things. > > They also found adding simple charts easier than Excel. > > Geoff > > > > "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message > news:00432fdf$0$16794$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: > >> Hi Geoff, >> >> I've suggested Reporting Services in the past, and my office does use it >> to >> build reports for some clients who prefer it over Crystal, but the users >> who >> want something "built it" don't seem to be interested in that. >> >> -- >> >> Ginny Caughey >> www.wasteworks.com >> >> >> >> >> "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message >> news:9w4Fm.49932$ze1.14339(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >> >> > Ginny, >> > >> > Ok, misunderstood what you meant. So how about Report Builder 2.0 (and >> > now >> > 3.0 is in CTP)? Under this scenario though the user definitely needs RS >> > but this is a very powerful option and far superior to ReportPro. It >> > can >> > be used with either Native or SP Integrated modes and has the familiar >> > Office 2007 ribbon. It is quite easy to use and quite easy to train >> > users >> > to work with them. You (as the developer) have to build the model but >> > this >> > is relatively painless and it gives power users an excellent design >> > surface. >> > >> > Geoff >> > >> > >> > >> > "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message >> > news:00430129$0$8068$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: >> > >> >> >> Hi Geoff, >> >> >> >> Actually I do use the MS reportViewer control already for reports I've >> >> created, and I agree it works well and fast! What I need is something >> >> end >> >> users can use to create their own reports though. >> >> >> >> I tried both fyiReporter and Fast Reports. Of the 2, I'd probably >> >> prefer >> >> Fast Reports (even though the redistributable version I'd need would >> >> be >> >> about $400) because you can just write C# (or VB) in the report >> >> writer - >> >> only I pretty much have that covered already. But for my users, I >> >> think >> >> the >> >> free fyiReporter would probably work better, so I spent about a half >> >> hour >> >> changing the C# source very slightly to use the same connection string >> >> as >> >> my >> >> apps from a config file and added it as a menu option from my VO app. >> >> My >> >> staff liked fyiReporter pretty well, although not as well as Crystal, >> >> and >> >> since they'll be the ones supporting it... >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Ginny Caughey >> >> www.wasteworks.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> wrote in message >> >> news:gl3Fm.49916$ze1.34082(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >> >> >> >> >> > Ginny, >> >> > >> >> > What is wrong with the reportViewer Control for MS SQL Server. It >> >> > executes >> >> > rdlc reports without the need for a reporting server installed >> >> > anywhere >> >> > and works directly off MS SQL. We have multiple data set reports >> >> > being >> >> > called from VO or C#. Hence you have the full power of MS Reporting >> >> > Services without needing a report server. >> >> > >> >> > Is this what you mean? >> >> > >> >> > Geoff >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in >> >> > message >> >> > news:003ebb60$0$16932$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Does anybody have a linkable report creation tool they like? .NET >> >> >> is >> >> >> fine >> >> >> or >> >> >> ActiveX, etc. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> Ginny Caughey >> >> >> www.wasteworks.com >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > |