Prev: [FAQ, 06/11/05] Mathematical logic on the web
Next: Abbreviating FOL with identity and membership2
From: TXZZ on 30 Apr 2010 20:38
Alright, back to the basics (if this were not necessary politics would
be better....)

Somehow, intuitively, I have trouble understanding why red herring is
a fallacy. It's just not solid.

Let me copy-paste an example of the fallacy:

I think there is great merit in making the requirements stricter for
the graduate students. I recommend that you support it, too. After
all, we are in a budget crisis and we do not want our salaries
affected


Now....this is a fallacy because teaches salary is not *necessarily*
relevant.

But claiming data or input is wrong because it's not *necessarily*
relevant doesn't make sense to me. YOu can't flat out call that a
fallacy.

Is it really correct to call red herring a logical fallacy? I hear
it's not considered a formal fallacy.

Thank you for your time
From: TXZZ on 30 Apr 2010 23:00
On Apr 30, 7:38 pm, TXZZ <poopdog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Alright, back to the basics (if this were not necessary politics would
> be better....)
>
> Somehow, intuitively, I have trouble understanding why red herring is
> a fallacy.  It's just not solid.
>
> Let me copy-paste an example of the fallacy:
>
> I think there is great merit in making the requirements stricter for
> the graduate students. I recommend that you support it, too. After
> all, we are in a budget crisis and we do not want our salaries
> affected
>
> Now....this is a fallacy because teaches salary is not *necessarily*
> relevant.
>
> But claiming data or input is wrong because it's not *necessarily*
> relevant doesn't make sense to me.   YOu can't flat out call that a
> fallacy.
>
> Is it really correct to call red herring a  logical fallacy?  I hear
> it's not considered a formal fallacy.
>
> Thank you for your time

From: William Elliot on 30 Apr 2010 23:44
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, TXZZ wrote:

> Is it really correct to call red herring a logical fallacy?

No. Logically it's superfluous clutter. Rationally a
red herring is a psychological assault, a propaganda tool.
From: TXZZ on 2 May 2010 15:50
On Apr 30, 10:44 pm, William Elliot <ma...(a)rdrop.remove.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, TXZZ wrote:
> > Is it really correct to call red herring a  logical fallacy?
>
> No.  Logically it's superfluous clutter.  Rationally a
> red herring is a psychological assault, a propaganda tool.

So what youre saying is red herring is more analagous to a rhetorical
tactic than a logical fallacy per_se
From: William Elliot on 3 May 2010 00:39
On Sun, 2 May 2010, TXZZ wrote:

> On Apr 30, 10:44�pm, William Elliot <ma...(a)rdrop.remove.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, TXZZ wrote:
>>> Is it really correct to call red herring a �logical fallacy?
>>
>> No. �Logically it's superfluous clutter. �Rationally a
>> red herring is a psychological assault, a propaganda tool.
>
> So what youre saying is red herring is more analagous to a rhetorical
> tactic than a logical fallacy per_se
>
I wouldn't dignify such a tactic as rhetorical.
 | 
Pages: 1
Prev: [FAQ, 06/11/05] Mathematical logic on the web
Next: Abbreviating FOL with identity and membership2