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"Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Twayne" <nobody(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
>> news:u$jvQrIuKHA.4908(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> In news:B48C1C9D-7B56-4B87-B67F-091321113481(a)microsoft.com,
>>> Kjw <Kjw(a)discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>>>> Yes, he sends his emails in one go but the people I have asked are
>>>> using the same internet service I am and he does also. Their email is
>>>> fine with no red x. BUT, all other email from others I get has the
>>>> pictures even from the same internet service that we use. If it was
>>>> something on my end wouldn't it be doing it with all of my email and
>>>> not just the ones from him? I have tried Thunderbird and it is doing
>>>> the same thing. No pictures. No, I don't have Outlook Express set to
>>>> not accept attachments that could be dangerous? That has been turned
>>>> off and still is. It's just strange to me that I get embedded
>>>> pictures just fine from everyone except him and that others get it
>>>> just fine from him even though we all use the same internet service.
>>>
>>> Hmm, beats me! All I can think of is to go thru OE's Tools; Option and
>>> Control Panel's Internet Options, looking in each tab for anything that
>>> might cause it. Did you try CTRL-ALT-H, just for grins? Probably not
>>> the fix, but ... can't hurt.
>>> I'd ask your ISP about it too; they might have something turned on
>>> that you're not aware of.
>>> Beyond that, all that's left is file corruption or malware, AFAIK right
>>> now.
>>>
>>> Hope you'll let us know when you get it solved?
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Twayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Twayne" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In news:618E6913-622A-4EB4-812E-EE2DD9CA6248(a)microsoft.com,
>>>>> Kjw <Kjw(a)discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>>>>>> Yes, he is forwarding them but no he nor any of the others are AOL
>>>>>> subscribers. Yes, I can send myself one with the graphics showing
>>>>>> and can receive from others with it showing. But, this is the
>>>>>> strange part, he is sending these messages all as a group. He and
>>>>>> others including myself all use the same internet service. The
>>>>>> others get these same emails with the graphics showing. If it was
>>>>>> on my end, I wouldn't be receiving from myself and others with the
>>>>>> graphics showing, would I. Plus, if it was on his end, the others
>>>>>> that he sent it to at the same time as myself wouldn't be getting
>>>>>> them with the graphics showing, would they? This is weird. Can
>>>>>> anyone explain this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL subscriber
>>>>>>> and/or are the other recipients AOL subscribers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics and
>>>>>>> you can see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the
>>>>>>> problem is NOT on your end.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kjw wrote:
>>>>>>>> I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't found
>>>>>>>> anything that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one
>>>>>>>> person has the red
>>>>>>>> x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with pictures
>>>>>>>> from others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his end, he
>>>>>>>> also sends it to several other people I know and they say theirs
>>>>>>>> has the picutres and NOT the red x. I have checked my firewall,
>>>>>>>> virus, etc. settings and can not find the problem. It's strange
>>>>>>>> to me that all email works except the ones from him and that
>>>>>>>> others gets the same email from him that is sent at the same time
>>>>>>>> and theirs has the picture. It seems like if it's a setting on my
>>>>>>>> end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something he's
>>>>>>>> doing, why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the
>>>>>>>> red x? Can anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming he sends all the mails in one go and not separate sessions,
>>>>> then if some recipien ts see the images OK and some do not, it is
>>>>> NOT anything at his end. It's highly likely to be a setting on your
>>>>> own computer's client or in your account settings at your ISP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Too many variables/possibilities and too little detail to target a
>>>>> response accurately, but ...
>>>>> -- Is your ISP scraping and deleting the attachments? Usually that's
>>>>> a selection around the AV protection area of the ISP's settings, on
>>>>> his server.
>>>>> -- Are you the only one in your group that uses your particular
>>>>> ISP? ISPs can have differeing settings and defaults so if ISP X
>>>>> works OK, that doesn't really say ISP Y will work OK.
>>>>> -- Have you set your client Options to not accept attachments that
>>>>> could be dangerous? If so, turn it off.
>>>>> -- The fact that others see them isn't helpful unless you also know
>>>>> that all the others are using the SAME mail client and version of
>>>>> their mail client as you are using, have all selected the same virus
>>>>> and spam an d attatchmen t settings the ISP may offer and all are
>>>>> identical. -- Have you, just for grins, tried installing Thunderbird
>>>>> or any other mail client to see if it sees the images OK? If another
>>>>> client does see them, then it's going to be some setting on your
>>>>> end. Actually that's what I suspect it's going to end up being
>>>>> anyway. Try comparing you computer account and ISP settings with
>>>>> someone and look for differences, and/ore try installing a different
>>>>> mail client. The browser counterpart of Thunderbird is FireFox - an
>>>>> excellent browser with only a couple very annoying "features" but
>>>>> they're harmless.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>
>>>>> Twayne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
>>>>> through personal experience does not become a
>>>>> part of the moral tissue.
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
>>> through personal experience does not become a
>>> part of the moral tissue.
>>
>>
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>


From: Zac Thompson on

"Zac Thompson" <ZThompson0901(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Twayne" <nobody(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:O89M7VkuKHA.5008(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> In news:F3B89C4B-D88D-4D14-AD3E-222D96772175(a)microsoft.com,
>> Kjw <Kjw(a)discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>>> If my virus protection was causing this problem, wouldn't I be
>>> getting the Red x with all email I get and not just from this one
>>> person? And that is the way it is, just him and just to me.
>>
>> It doesn't sound like your AV is the problem, but it's worth checking out
>> if nothing else seems to help. I haven't seen anything but anecdotal
>> evidence that AV messes with incoming mail; only outgoing.
>> Since it's just the one sender, and it's consistant, it could however
>> be a problem at his end with AV, or his ISP is preventing such images, or
>> your ISP could too if they were so inclined. Is he using a free account
>> somewhere to send those? They might be blocking images.
>>
>> Here's a test you could try if it's feasible: Have someone else that gets
>> his images OK send one of the ones you cannot read to you and see if you
>> can read that. If not, then you probably have a problem with file
>> associations or similar.
>>
>> Another one: When you receive a "red x", is the file of an appropriate
>> size? In ohter words, is the image even IN the mail that you receive?
>> If it's not, then either he has messed up somehow or one of your ISPs is
>> stripping it out for some reason. Somehow an ISP might be seeing them as
>> dangerous images and stripping them out, but they SHOULD be teling you if
>> they do that.
>> If it IS there, then it's something at your end for sure.
>> Look at the mail's source code: You should normally see whatever he
>> wrote to you in the body of the message, plus a lot of meaningless
>> numbers, many screens worth, that make up the image. In Outlook Express
>> it's CTRL-F3 to see the code, but I don't know other programs methods.
>> Your Headers don't look like you're using Outlook Express but maybe WLM
>> or Outlook?
>> Who is your ISP?
>> Who is his ISP?
>> Is the image data present in the e-mail source code when you get a red
>> x? This is probably the most important question to answer.
>>
>> Luck,
>>
>> Twayne
>>
>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides
>>>> no additional protection, it may be causing the problem, and even
>>>> Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>>>
>>>> <QP>
>>>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against
>>>> viruses that are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus
>>>> Auto-Protect scans incoming files as they are saved to your hard
>>>> drive, including email and email attachments. Email Scanning is just
>>>> another layer on top of this. To make sure that Auto-Protect is
>>>> providing the maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled and run
>>>> LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus
>>>> definitions. </QP>
>>>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
>>>>
>>>> . Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
>>>>
>>>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~PA Bear
>>>>
>>>> Kjw wrote:
>>>>> Yes, my virus applications are configured to scan my email coming
>>>>> and going.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is your anti-virus application configured to scan incoming and
>>>>>> outgoing mail?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kjw wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes, he is forwarding them but no he nor any of the others are AOL
>>>>>>> subscribers. Yes, I can send myself one with the graphics showing
>>>>>>> and can
>>>>>>> receive from others with it showing. But, this is the strange
>>>>>>> part, he is
>>>>>>> sending these messages all as a group. He and others including
>>>>>>> myself all
>>>>>>> use the same internet service. The others get these same emails
>>>>>>> with the graphics showing. If it was on my end, I wouldn't be
>>>>>>> receiving from myself
>>>>>>> and others with the graphics showing, would I. Plus, if it was on
>>>>>>> his end,
>>>>>>> the others that he sent it to at the same time as myself wouldn't
>>>>>>> be getting them with the graphics showing, would they? This is
>>>>>>> weird. Can anyone explain this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is he Forwarding all of these messages and is he an AOL
>>>>>>>> subscriber and/or
>>>>>>>> are the other recipients AOL subscribers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you can send yourself an HTML message with embedded graphics
>>>>>>>> and you can
>>>>>>>> see the graphics, not a Red X, in the received email, the
>>>>>>>> problem is NOT
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> your end.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kjw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I know this subject has been discussed before but I haven't
>>>>>>>>> found anything
>>>>>>>>> that covers my problem. All email I receive from this one
>>>>>>>>> person has the
>>>>>>>>> red
>>>>>>>>> x if there is a picture in it. BUT, all email I get with
>>>>>>>>> pictures from others works fine. Before you tell me it's on his
>>>>>>>>> end, he also sends it
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> several other people I know and they say theirs has the
>>>>>>>>> picutres and NOT
>>>>>>>>> the red x. I have checked my firewall, virus, etc. settings and
>>>>>>>>> can not
>>>>>>>>> find the problem. It's strange to me that all email works
>>>>>>>>> except the ones
>>>>>>>>> from him and that others gets the same email from him that is
>>>>>>>>> sent at the
>>>>>>>>> same time and theirs has the picture. It seems like if it's a
>>>>>>>>> setting on
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> end, then why are the others working? Plus, if it's something
>>>>>>>>> he's doing,
>>>>>>>>> why does everyone else get it with the picture and not the red
>>>>>>>>> x? Can anyone explain this? This is weird. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
>> through personal experience does not become a
>> part of the moral tissue.
>
>


From: Zac Thompson on

"Joy" <nospamjoymp2(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Thank you!
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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>> Tools | Options | Security. Uncheck: "Block images..............".
>>
>> "Images are blocked when you open an e-mail message in Outlook Express on
>> a Windows XP Service Pack 2-based computer"
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/843018
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Joy" <nospamjoymp2(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:ezgRu4QxKHA.5132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> It's been a while since I knew how to solve the "red X" problem, but my
>>> computer crashed and now that my computer man has it back and running, I
>>> have the red X and I can't remember the setting to solve it; something
>>> about security? Thanks.
>>>
>>
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>


From: Shanel Rucker on
OK ALL U HAVE TO DO IS RESISTAT
"Joy" <nospamjoymp2(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> It's been a while since I knew how to solve the "red X" problem, but my
> computer crashed and now that my computer man has it back and running, I
> have the red X and I can't remember the setting to solve it; something
> about security? Thanks.
>


From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on
RESISTAT IS FUTILE! YOU MUST SUBMIT!

Shanel Rucker wrote:
> OK ALL U HAVE TO DO IS RESISTAT
> "Joy" <nospamjoymp2(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:ezgRu4QxKHA.5132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> It's been a while since I knew how to solve the "red X" problem, but my
>> computer crashed and now that my computer man has it back and running, I
>> have the red X and I can't remember the setting to solve it; something
>> about security? Thanks.
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