From: Surfer on 26 Jun 2007 23:34 From: http://www.lostrelativity.com/ "In the book "Relativity Einstein's Lost Frame" Rodrigo de Abreu and Vasco Guerra make a profound investigation on the physical meaning of Relativity Theory. They show that this theory is compatible with the existence of a privileged frame, which they named Einstein's Frame, and enlighten why it is sometimes stated that relativity theory "demonstrates" the non existence of this frame. In fact, as it is shown, this is a misconception, a wrongly formulated problem. Einstein and Infeld in the book "The Evolution of Physics" stated: The formulation of a problem is often more essential than its solution, which may be merely a matter of mathematical or experimental skill. To raise new questions, new possibilities, to regard old problems from a new angle, require creative imagination and marks real advance in science. It is in this sense, on the search for a new perspective, that the old problem of interpreting Lorentz Transformation is reopened. Einstein stated that the speed of light in one direction ("one-way speed of light") is the same in all frames; the fundamental idea developed in the book is that the speed of light in one direction, is indeed undetermined, that is, that Einstein's Frame - the frame in absolute rest - is not known. Interestingly enough, in his famous 1905's article "On the electrodynamics of moving bodies", Einstein starts by defining distinctly the frame in absolute rest. Nevertheless, he then gets rid of it, stating that any inertial frame can be taken as the rest system. Thus the subtitle "Eistein's lost frame". The authors show that the "speed of light" as defined by Einstein (the speed according to the definition introduced by Einstein in his 1905's article) is indeed the same in all directions, in all inertial frames. However, the real speed of light is only the same in all directions, when considered in one particular frame, precisely Einstein's frame. By having this problem of language pertaining to these two different concepts of "speed" resolved, the physical interpretation of the theory becomes, as it is shown, surprisingly simple to make. The experimental determination of the speed of light "one-way", will complete this theory, as it will finally allow to identify "Einstein's Lost Frame". This is the theme developed in chapter 6 "The quest for Einstein's frame", where several determination methods are referred, and in particular the reinterpretations of the experimental results that emerge from the analysis of Reginald Cahill and Maurizio Consolli. The theory of relative movement emerges from introducing "Lorentz Transformation" that is obtained with great simplicity from "Synchronized Transformation" [#] using a possible clock desynchronization deriving from this last transformation. This method of obtaining the Lorentz Transformation is then linked and interpreted in a precise and simple manner, with Einstein's method. " [#] "Physics in a synchronized space time" by Gustavo Homem http://fisica.ist.utl.pt/%7Eleft/2002-2003/Apresentacoes/16-12-2003/Gustavo_Homem.pdf
From: Androcles on 27 Jun 2007 08:57 "Surfer" <surfer(a)no.spam.net> wrote in message news:qgm383pu953sq7r8ei44ql5e67s5shmmte(a)4ax.com... : : : Einstein stated that the speed of light in one direction ("one-way : speed of light") is the same in all frames; No he didn't. Einstein clearly stated "But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k, when measured in the stationary system, with the velocity c-v, so that http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img31.gif Look it up. Why do you spamming bastards continue to LIE about what he said?
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