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From: eric gisse on 16 May 2010 03:51
Eric Baird wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:01:44 -0700, Uncle Al <UncleAl0(a)hate.spam.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Eric Baird wrote:
>>>
>
> [snip]
>
>>1.2 Lightspeed varies
>>
>>"in a very real physical sense, lightspeed can be said to appear to
>>vary from place to place and from time to time, if provide with a good
>>enough reason."
>>
>>One doubts adding 360 pages to page 6 is sufficient to contain "a good
>>enough reason."
>
> I've replied to that part, but I thought that I probably also ought to
> respond to the references that you gave n your signoff.
>
>>
>>http://arxiv.org/abs/0905.1929
>
> There are different ways of implementing Lorentz Invariance, depending
> on how we define the term.

Lorentz invariance means one thing and one thing only: SO(3,1).

> The family of relativistic solutions in
> chapter 13 all relate to one another by Lorentzlike factors. The
> suggested candidate equations for an alternative model are redder and
> shorter than SR by exactly one additional Lorentz-factor click.

Meaningless jibberjabber.

The clueless should not be writing books about subjects they do not
understand.

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From: BURT on 16 May 2010 04:21
On May 16, 12:51 am, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Eric Baird wrote:
> > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:01:44 -0700, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Eric Baird wrote:
>
> > [snip]
>
> >>1.2 Lightspeed varies
>
> >>"in a very real physical sense, lightspeed can be said to appear to
> >>vary from place to place and from time to time, if provide with a good
> >>enough reason."
>
> >>One doubts adding 360 pages to page 6 is sufficient to contain "a good
> >>enough reason."
>
> > I've replied to that part, but I thought that I probably also ought to
> > respond to the references that you gave n your signoff.
>
> >>http://arxiv.org/abs/0905.1929
>
> > There are different ways of implementing Lorentz Invariance, depending
> > on how we define the term.
>
> Lorentz invariance means one thing and one thing only: SO(3,1).
>
> > The family of relativistic solutions in
> > chapter 13 all relate to one another by Lorentzlike factors. The
> > suggested candidate equations for an alternative model are redder and
> > shorter than SR by exactly one additional Lorentz-factor click.
>
> Meaningless jibberjabber.
>
> The clueless should not be writing books about subjects they do not
> understand.
>
> [snip rest, unread]- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Motion takes place in an absolute space frame.

Micth Raemsch
From: Y.Porat on 16 May 2010 04:25
On May 16, 9:51 am, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Eric Baird wrote:
> > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:01:44 -0700, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Eric Baird wrote:
>
> > [snip]
>
> >>1.2 Lightspeed varies
>
> >>"in a very real physical sense, lightspeed can be said to appear to
> >>vary from place to place and from time to time, if provide with a good
> >>enough reason."
>
> >>One doubts adding 360 pages to page 6 is sufficient to contain "a good
> >>enough reason."
>
> > I've replied to that part, but I thought that I probably also ought to
> > respond to the references that you gave n your signoff.
>
> >>http://arxiv.org/abs/0905.1929
>
> > There are different ways of implementing Lorentz Invariance, depending
> > on how we define the term.
>
> Lorentz invariance means one thing and one thing only: SO(3,1).
>
> > The family of relativistic solutions in
> > chapter 13 all relate to one another by Lorentzlike factors. The
> > suggested candidate equations for an alternative model are redder and
> > shorter than SR by exactly one additional Lorentz-factor click.
>
> Meaningless jibberjabber.
>
> The clueless should not be writing books about subjects they do not
> understand.
>
> [snip rest, unread]

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imbecile parrot !!!
light curves next to mass
BECAUSE LIGHT (PHOTONS )
HAS MASS!!

and i proved it at least in 3 different ways
the simplest is by showing that
th e photon momentum of light --
P = m c
has mass !!:

P is not zero
c is not zero
(and we agreed already that there is just one kind of mass !!)

ie

Gisse &CO. =Zero

ATB
Y.Porat
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From: Sam Wormley on 16 May 2010 11:27
On 5/16/10 2:51 AM, eric gisse wrote:

>
> Lorentz invariance means one thing and one thing only: SO(3,1).

Baird is going to need more background
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_group
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