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From: Peter Twydell on 22 Jan 2010 12:36 In message <qsadnYxekuLR_sXWnZ2dnUVZ_u5i4p2d(a)giganews.com>, Van Chocstraw <boobooililililil(a)roadrunner.com> writes >On 01/19/2010 11:15 AM, BillW50 wrote: >> Van Chocstraw wrote on Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:51:09 -0500: >>> On 01/19/2010 07:32 AM, Tom wrote: >>>> If interested in a simple explanation of the religions of the world >>>> visit www.religious-information.com. >>> >>> Religion was a way to explain things when people knew nothing of the >>> universe. >> >> Science knows nothing about the Universe either. They don't even know >> what makes up most of the Universe. And because they don't understand, >> they create stories of multiple dimensions to try to explain their >> misunderstanding. >> >> Sadly the Mayans understood the Universe far better than we do today. >> How they figured all of this out without satellites and telescopes >> remains a great mystery. >> > >And lightening is God angry, right. Judging by what it did to old Whacko Jacko, you could be right. -- Peter Ying tong iddle-i po!
From: Michael A. Terrell on 22 Jan 2010 19:34 Rich Webb wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:39:23 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jeffm_(a)email.com> > wrote: > > >Rich Webb wrote: > >>By the way, Columbus was wrong. > >> > >There are those who believe he knew what he was selling > >was likely false but that he was a really good snake oil salesman. > >He did get his gig financed. > > Heh. Quite possible, I suppose. Lucky for him (and the crews!) there was > something out there. Even given the (pretty close) size estimate that > Eratosthenes of Cyrene et al. came up with, their experiences in large > bodies of water may have lead to the not unreasonable expectation that > there would likely not be just one big ocean between the western > extremes of Europe and the eastern of Asia. Of course, if the Atlantic > and Pacific had been swapped ... You were VERY lost! -- Greed is the root of all eBay.
From: mm on 24 Jan 2010 03:33 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:04:36 -0500, Rich Webb <bbew.ar(a)mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote: >On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:39:23 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jeffm_(a)email.com> >wrote: > >>Rich Webb wrote: >>>By the way, Columbus was wrong. >>> >>There are those who believe he knew what he was selling >>was likely false but that he was a really good snake oil salesman. >>He did get his gig financed. > >Heh. Quite possible, I suppose. Lucky for him (and the crews!) there was >something out there. Even given the (pretty close) size estimate that >Eratosthenes of Cyrene et al. came up with, their experiences in large >bodies of water may have lead to the not unreasonable expectation that >there would likely not be just one big ocean between the western >extremes of Europe and the eastern of Asia. Of course, if the Atlantic >and Pacific had been swapped ... It's not true that people didn't know the world was round. They had seen the shadow on the moon and while that miight only mean it was a round plate, I think quite a few had concluded it was a sphere.
From: Rich Webb on 24 Jan 2010 08:20 On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 03:33:35 -0500, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com> wrote: >On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:04:36 -0500, Rich Webb ><bbew.ar(a)mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote: > >>On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:39:23 -0800 (PST), JeffM <jeffm_(a)email.com> >>wrote: >> >>>Rich Webb wrote: >>>>By the way, Columbus was wrong. >>>> >>>There are those who believe he knew what he was selling >>>was likely false but that he was a really good snake oil salesman. >>>He did get his gig financed. >> >>Heh. Quite possible, I suppose. Lucky for him (and the crews!) there was >>something out there. Even given the (pretty close) size estimate that >>Eratosthenes of Cyrene et al. came up with, their experiences in large >>bodies of water may have lead to the not unreasonable expectation that >>there would likely not be just one big ocean between the western >>extremes of Europe and the eastern of Asia. Of course, if the Atlantic >>and Pacific had been swapped ... > >It's not true that people didn't know the world was round. They had >seen the shadow on the moon and while that miight only mean it was a >round plate, I think quite a few had concluded it was a sphere. Yes, but the mistake Columbus made or, as Jeff implies, his cunning plan to get financing, was whether the Earth's circumference was small enough and the arc length from Europe to Asia short enough to make a passage to India and the Spice Islands feasible when traveling to the west. -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
From: JD on 24 Jan 2010 19:28
BillW50 wrote: > Van Chocstraw wrote on Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:22:31 -0500: >> On 01/19/2010 11:15 AM, BillW50 wrote: >>> Van Chocstraw wrote on Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:51:09 -0500: >>>> On 01/19/2010 07:32 AM, Tom wrote: >>>>> If interested in a simple explanation of the religions of the world >>>>> visit www.religious-information.com. >>>> Religion was a way to explain things when people knew nothing of the >>>> universe. >>> Science knows nothing about the Universe either. They don't even know >>> what makes up most of the Universe. And because they don't understand, >>> they create stories of multiple dimensions to try to explain their >>> misunderstanding. >>> >>> Sadly the Mayans understood the Universe far better than we do today. >>> How they figured all of this out without satellites and telescopes >>> remains a great mystery. >> >> And lightening is God angry, right. > > Acts of God, mother nature, natural forces, etc. are just different > names for the same thing to me. Probably the same belief for many > thousands of years ago as well. For example, Plato seemed pretty level > headed. Although then and now, people still has to play along. Ever > noticed the fine print in many insurance contracts? As they state acts > of God isn't covered. Funny, eh? Not something you expect in this day > and age. Bill, you are full of religious bullshit. All religions are frauds. There is not the slightest shred of evidence of the existence of a god, heaven, hell etc - not a shred. Just look at the churches in Haiti getting blasted. Look at the evil people who inhabit the earth and compare them with the holiest - do they suffer more diseases - no! Why do tiny children, who could not possibly have committed evil deeds, often suffer from dreadful diseases? because that fictitious god was too busy watching the sparrows falling from the trees. Wake up and learn to see straight. |