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From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 7 Jun 2010 03:03 *This is a edited repost of an earlier Microsoft message. (No this is not a joke) - Russ Grover MVP I'm reposting this because I just noticed some more newsgroups are no longer accessible and I wonder when this one will be deleted also. >>>>>>>>>>> Reminder Newsgroups EOL <<<<<<<<<<<<<< What is Happening? This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. Why? As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology and discontinue support for newsgroups. In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the Microsoft NNTP Bridge http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ Another "Non Microsoft" support NNTP Bridge can be found here MS Web-Forums via an open source NNTP newsserver (bridge). http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/ Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more active ones throughout the course of the next six months. Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? Microsoft has a large selection of forums, many of which cover either the same or closely related technologies to the ones found in the newsgroups. The forums have seen amazing growth and are an excellent place to continue the discussion. For SBS related questions we recommend that you start with Public Forum http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/smallbusinessserver/threads Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Public Forums, please go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx Who Should I Contact with any Questions? Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to NNTP(a)microsoft.com -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
From: Charlie Russel - MVP on 7 Jun 2010 10:47 newsgroups will continue to be accessible indefinitely. What _won't_ be accessible is the msnews server. For those willing to use one of the many other NNTP servers out there, the newsgroups will still exist. Of course, that doesn't mean that all the MVPs and others who are helpful will be there. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message news:A092E03C-D317-4ED0-AED9-2D8C42CD8AB3(a)microsoft.com... > *This is a edited repost of an earlier Microsoft message. > (No this is not a joke) - Russ Grover MVP > > I'm reposting this because I just noticed some more newsgroups are no > longer > accessible and I wonder when this one will be deleted also. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Reminder Newsgroups EOL <<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > What is Happening? > This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing > newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. > > Why? > As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the > traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the > past several years while customers and participants are increasingly > finding > solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. > This > move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it > easier > for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies > and > make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through > improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam > management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging > a > healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft > will > begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology > and discontinue support for newsgroups. > > In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those > users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the > newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge > which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the > forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP > reader > functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up > the > > Microsoft NNTP Bridge > http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ > > Another "Non Microsoft" support NNTP Bridge can be found here > MS Web-Forums via an open source NNTP newsserver (bridge). > http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/ > > Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? > All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and > October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased > approach, > starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more > active ones throughout the course of the next six months. > > Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? > Microsoft has a large selection of forums, many of which cover either the > same or closely related technologies to the ones found in the newsgroups. > The forums have seen amazing growth and are an excellent place to continue > the discussion. > > For SBS related questions we recommend that you start with Public Forum > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/smallbusinessserver/threads > > Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Public Forums, please go to > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx > > Who Should I Contact with any Questions? > Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to > NNTP(a)microsoft.com > > > > > > -- > Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz > BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com > >
From: Steve Foster on 7 Jun 2010 13:12 Charlie Russel - MVP wrote: > newsgroups will continue to be accessible indefinitely. What won't be > accessible is the msnews server. For those willing to use one of the > many other NNTP servers out there, the newsgroups will still exist. > Of course, that doesn't mean that all the MVPs and others who are > helpful will be there. Yes, it seems unlikely that Microsoft will give much weight to usenet contributions when considering MVP candidates... -- Steve Foster For SSL Certificates, Domains, etc, visit.: https://netshop.virtual-isp.net
From: Charlie Russel - MVP on 8 Jun 2010 01:18 Well, Steve, I did this long before I was an MVP (in fact, long before MS even HAD MVPs) and I'll do it long after I stop being an MVP. I'll do it with a tool and a venue that minimizes my time while maximizing the number of people I can help. That is currently NNTP, though it used to be CompuServe. It will likely never be Web Forums without a standalone tool. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel "Steve Foster" <stevefoster(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:xn0gv3yoq2pgp2b02y(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Charlie Russel - MVP wrote: > >> newsgroups will continue to be accessible indefinitely. What won't be >> accessible is the msnews server. For those willing to use one of the >> many other NNTP servers out there, the newsgroups will still exist. >> Of course, that doesn't mean that all the MVPs and others who are >> helpful will be there. > > Yes, it seems unlikely that Microsoft will give much weight to usenet > contributions when considering MVP candidates... > > -- > Steve Foster > For SSL Certificates, Domains, etc, visit.: > https://netshop.virtual-isp.net
From: Steve Foster on 8 Jun 2010 09:10
Charlie Russel - MVP wrote: > Well, Steve, I did this long before I was an MVP (in fact, long > before MS even HAD MVPs) and I'll do it long after I stop being an > MVP. I'll do it with a tool and a venue that minimizes my time while > maximizing the number of people I can help. That is currently NNTP, > though it used to be CompuServe. It will likely never be Web Forums > without a standalone tool. There was no suggestion that those who are active helpers like yourself would simply stop helping, just because Microsoft are making helping more difficult. Although I wouldn't blame anyone for giving up, either. -- Steve Foster For SSL Certificates, Domains, etc, visit.: https://netshop.virtual-isp.net |