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From: Nomen Nescio on 23 May 2010 18:08
In article <85tiqlFfbhU1(a)mid.individual.net>
Robert Riebisch <Robert.Riebisch(a)arcor.de> wrote:
>
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> > I agree that this is a stupid decision, but we can always use NNTP to access
> > this group from any regular NNTP server, as I've always done.
> > While MS may remove these groups from their NNTP server, there are loads
> > of NNTP servers carrying the groups and they will not disappear from them.
>
> No! AFAIK Microsoft will "ask" all NNTP providers to remove the
> microsoft.* hierarchy completely.
>

I doubt that will work. The NNTP providers make their money carrying
newsgroups.

From: Nomen Nescio on 23 May 2010 19:35
In article <uFA8#Os#KHA.3972(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > No! AFAIK Microsoft will "ask" all NNTP providers to remove the
> > microsoft.* hierarchy completely.
>
> It all depends on how many will honor the request. (either the NNTP rmgroup,
> or any Microsoft campaign...)
>

Most servers will ignore an rmgroup due to abuse potential.

And then there's always http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.virtualpc

From: Robert Comer on 23 May 2010 21:23
> Most servers will ignore an rmgroup due to abuse potential.

But they can be handled manually -- we'll just have to wait and see how
things turn out.

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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody(a)dizum.com> wrote in message
news:346d3cdd867aa0255b9956ade71809a1(a)dizum.com...
> In article <uFA8#Os#KHA.3972(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> > No! AFAIK Microsoft will "ask" all NNTP providers to remove the
>> > microsoft.* hierarchy completely.
>>
>> It all depends on how many will honor the request. (either the NNTP
>> rmgroup,
>> or any Microsoft campaign...)
>>
>
> Most servers will ignore an rmgroup due to abuse potential.
>
> And then there's always
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.virtualpc
>
From: Bo Berglund on 24 May 2010 13:28
On Sat, 22 May 2010 08:40:38 +0200, Bo Berglund
<boberglund(a)myotherhome.sec> wrote:

>This NNTP bridge thing does *NOT* convert the forum bodies to
>plaintext as it should! So every message body shows up as an
>attachment in my reader!
>Totally unusable!!!!
>
>Compare this to the Embarcadero NNTP interface to their developer
>forums, where the NNTP interface converts between the HTML used on the
>forum and the text expected by NNTP newsreaders. That approach for
>sure works fine.
>
>This release should have been designated NNTP Bridge Beta 0.1 rather
>than release 1.1!
>

I switched from Forte Free Agent 3.3 to Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 to check
if its NNTP newsreader could handle NNTP Bridge html data, and it
does!
So far all posts I have read look OK, however, I have yet to post a
reply... Don't know if I even want to.

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Bo Berglund (Sweden)
From: Karl E. Peterson on 24 May 2010 19:26
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> In article <uFA8#Os#KHA.3972(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>
> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No! AFAIK Microsoft will "ask" all NNTP providers to remove the
>>> microsoft.* hierarchy completely.
>>
>> It all depends on how many will honor the request. (either the NNTP rmgroup,
>> or any Microsoft campaign...)
>>
>
> Most servers will ignore an rmgroup due to abuse potential.

I sure wouldn't count on that. Take a look at your free newsserver,
and see how many of the rmgroup requests from this yahoo were accepted:

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.msnewservers/browse_frm/thread/3b8d33430c3071f0/01767bbaedeb096d#01767bbaedeb096d

> And then there's always
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.virtualpc

That'll be an interesting one to watch.

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