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From: Carlos on 22 Jun 2010 17:12 I wonder whether the web access I use: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general&lang=en&cr=US&mid=c05d0339-b4b4-4e56-b337-413daf620e2c will still be alive "the day after" (a.k.a. July the 1st). Carlos "R. C. White" wrote: > Hi, Steve. > > Thanks for the reminder of non-MS Usenet servers. Fortunately, my ISP > (Grande Communications, here in San Marcos, TX) still carries over 100,000 > NGs - via Giganews, I think. So, while I haven't yet subscribed to THIS > NG - and a few others that I'm still reading via MSNews - I'll be adding > those to my Quicken and Win7.general NGs on that server soon. > > I tried eternal-september.org several months ago but probably won't go back > to it unless - or until - Grande follows the trend and discontinues Usenet, > too. :>( > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc(a)grandecom.net > Microsoft Windows MVP > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64) > > "Steve Foster" <stevefoster(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:xn0gvotc9471n9f009(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > Carlos wrote: > > > >> High time for asking Dalai Lama about re-incarnation. > >> Maybe he can tell us where we will be born again!. > >> :) > >> Seriously speaking, I am deeply worried that this specific comunity, > >> built with such a hard effort of everybody is at the verge of > >> extinction. Like, E.L.I. in "Deep Impact". > >> For the moment, my main concern is Argentina vs Greece tomorrow. > > > > I'm posting to the group using Eternal September. I don't expect it to > > go anywhere on July 1, just because Microsoft drop it from > > msnews.microsoft.com. > > > > Go visit www.eternal-september.org to get yourselves a free account > > (but not all at once!), and then this newsgroup can live on forever... > > > > -- > > Steve Foster >
From: R. C. White on 22 Jun 2010 22:11 Hi, Carlos. I'm not expert enough to say for sure if Discussions will continue. But my understanding is that the "Discussions" interface has always been just another way to view these Usenet newsgroups without using a newsreader - by reading them in a Web browser. Over the years, I've tried many times to use that Discussions interface myself - and just never could get comfy with it. I never could stand to try it for more than a half-hour at a time. Quick, Carlos, before it's too late to see what I mean, click on this link: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general That one click should fire up your default newsreader (OE? WM? WLM? Thunderbird, Agent or other 3rd-party newsreader?); create a News Account for you on this soon-to-disappear Microsoft public news server, which is free and does not require you to log on; subscribe you to THIS newsgroup; download the 300 latest messages here; and display the newest post in the Reading Pane for you to read. As you will see, these are the identical messages that you see in Discussions, but presented in a different format. This is the way I've read all the Usenet newsgroups for about 15 years now, since OE first appeared in Win95, and I'm still reading them in the same way in WLMail - for a few more weeks. I will soon switch to Forums - but reluctantly. I'm sorry for not pointing this out much earlier, Carlos, but I simply didn't notice until now that your address is @discussions.microsoft.com. :^{ RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc(a)grandecom.net Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64) "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:54CB3809-5974-451B-A71F-FFF7917997AD(a)microsoft.com... > I wonder whether the web access I use: > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general&lang=en&cr=US&mid=c05d0339-b4b4-4e56-b337-413daf620e2c > will still be alive "the day after" (a.k.a. July the 1st). > Carlos > > "R. C. White" wrote: > >> Hi, Steve. >> >> Thanks for the reminder of non-MS Usenet servers. Fortunately, my ISP >> (Grande Communications, here in San Marcos, TX) still carries over >> 100,000 >> NGs - via Giganews, I think. So, while I haven't yet subscribed to THIS >> NG - and a few others that I'm still reading via MSNews - I'll be adding >> those to my Quicken and Win7.general NGs on that server soon. >> >> I tried eternal-september.org several months ago but probably won't go >> back >> to it unless - or until - Grande follows the trend and discontinues >> Usenet, >> too. :>( >> >> RC >> >> "Steve Foster" <stevefoster(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> news:xn0gvotc9471n9f009(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> > Carlos wrote: >> > >> >> High time for asking Dalai Lama about re-incarnation. >> >> Maybe he can tell us where we will be born again!. >> >> :) >> >> Seriously speaking, I am deeply worried that this specific comunity, >> >> built with such a hard effort of everybody is at the verge of >> >> extinction. Like, E.L.I. in "Deep Impact". >> >> For the moment, my main concern is Argentina vs Greece tomorrow. >> > >> > I'm posting to the group using Eternal September. I don't expect it to >> > go anywhere on July 1, just because Microsoft drop it from >> > msnews.microsoft.com. >> > >> > Go visit www.eternal-september.org to get yourselves a free account >> > (but not all at once!), and then this newsgroup can live on forever... >> > >> > -- >> > Steve Foster
From: Carlos on 23 Jun 2010 06:47 R.C., Thanks for the tip. In any way this group is intended to disappear. There's no 64-bit anything offered by Microsoft in the forums. Still trying to find a new home. :( Carlos "R. C. White" wrote: > Hi, Carlos. > > I'm not expert enough to say for sure if Discussions will continue. But my > understanding is that the "Discussions" interface has always been just > another way to view these Usenet newsgroups without using a newsreader - by > reading them in a Web browser. Over the years, I've tried many times to use > that Discussions interface myself - and just never could get comfy with it. > I never could stand to try it for more than a half-hour at a time. > > Quick, Carlos, before it's too late to see what I mean, click on this link: > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general > > That one click should fire up your default newsreader (OE? WM? WLM? > Thunderbird, Agent or other 3rd-party newsreader?); create a News Account > for you on this soon-to-disappear Microsoft public news server, which is > free and does not require you to log on; subscribe you to THIS newsgroup; > download the 300 latest messages here; and display the newest post in the > Reading Pane for you to read. As you will see, these are the identical > messages that you see in Discussions, but presented in a different format. > > This is the way I've read all the Usenet newsgroups for about 15 years now, > since OE first appeared in Win95, and I'm still reading them in the same way > in WLMail - for a few more weeks. I will soon switch to Forums - but > reluctantly. > > I'm sorry for not pointing this out much earlier, Carlos, but I simply > didn't notice until now that your address is @discussions.microsoft.com. > :^{ > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc(a)grandecom.net > Microsoft Windows MVP > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64) > > "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:54CB3809-5974-451B-A71F-FFF7917997AD(a)microsoft.com... > > I wonder whether the web access I use: > > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general&lang=en&cr=US&mid=c05d0339-b4b4-4e56-b337-413daf620e2c > > will still be alive "the day after" (a.k.a. July the 1st). > > Carlos > > > > "R. C. White" wrote: > > > >> Hi, Steve. > >> > >> Thanks for the reminder of non-MS Usenet servers. Fortunately, my ISP > >> (Grande Communications, here in San Marcos, TX) still carries over > >> 100,000 > >> NGs - via Giganews, I think. So, while I haven't yet subscribed to THIS > >> NG - and a few others that I'm still reading via MSNews - I'll be adding > >> those to my Quicken and Win7.general NGs on that server soon. > >> > >> I tried eternal-september.org several months ago but probably won't go > >> back > >> to it unless - or until - Grande follows the trend and discontinues > >> Usenet, > >> too. :>( > >> > >> RC > >> > >> "Steve Foster" <stevefoster(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > >> news:xn0gvotc9471n9f009(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >> > Carlos wrote: > >> > > >> >> High time for asking Dalai Lama about re-incarnation. > >> >> Maybe he can tell us where we will be born again!. > >> >> :) > >> >> Seriously speaking, I am deeply worried that this specific comunity, > >> >> built with such a hard effort of everybody is at the verge of > >> >> extinction. Like, E.L.I. in "Deep Impact". > >> >> For the moment, my main concern is Argentina vs Greece tomorrow. > >> > > >> > I'm posting to the group using Eternal September. I don't expect it to > >> > go anywhere on July 1, just because Microsoft drop it from > >> > msnews.microsoft.com. > >> > > >> > Go visit www.eternal-september.org to get yourselves a free account > >> > (but not all at once!), and then this newsgroup can live on forever... > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Steve Foster >
From: Charlie Russel - MVP on 23 Jun 2010 10:03 Yes, nice job against Greece. Didn't get to see it, unfortunately, was busy all day. :( "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F10C10F4-C150-496D-B3A6-D2773CDF3EB9(a)microsoft.com... > Charlie, > Your optimism is well founded. > We beat Greece 2-0 today. > 3 matches won out of 3. Four more to go. > Now I'll have to wait till Sunday, playoff against Mexico. > Carlos > > "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: > >> If we don't have a Forums home, we'll stay here for the moment. And >> Argentina will prevail. >> >> (Hey, I'm an optimist by nature!) >> >> -- >> Charlie. >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel >> >> >> >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:E44D673C-EE94-4288-BB32-2EECFF11AFFA(a)microsoft.com... >> > High time for asking Dalai Lama about re-incarnation. >> > Maybe he can tell us where we will be born again!. >> > :) >> > Seriously speaking, I am deeply worried that this specific comunity, >> > built >> > with such a hard effort of everybody is at the verge of extinction. >> > Like, E.L.I. in "Deep Impact". >> > For the moment, my main concern is Argentina vs Greece tomorrow. >> > >> > Carlos >> > >> > "Maratonmannen" wrote: >> > >> >> July 1, it´s only 10 days left. :( >> >> Where to go after that? >> >> >> >> Maratonmannen >> >> >> >> >> >> "R. C. White" <rc(a)grandecom.net> skrev i meddelandet >> >> news:F8EC409C-6505-4CC1-A14A-9FCD674DCFCC(a)microsoft.com... >> >> > Hi, 64-bit Gang. >> >> > >> >> >> Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? >> >> >> Effective July 1, 2010, this newsgroup will be closed. >> >> >> >> >> >> > R. C. White, CPA >> >> > San Marcos, TX >> >> > rc(a)grandecom.net >> >> > Microsoft Windows MVP >> >> > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64) >> >> > >> >> > <nntp(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:urpUugQELHA.3344(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >> >> >> >> >> What is Happening? >> >> >> This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin >> >> >> discontinuing >> >> >> newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. >> >> >> >> >> >> Why? >> >> >> As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; >> >> >> however, >> >> >> the >> >> >> traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing >> >> >> for >> >> >> the >> >> >> past several years while customers and participants are >> >> >> increasingly >> >> >> finding >> >> >> solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party >> >> >> sites. >> >> >> This >> >> >> move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make >> >> >> it >> >> >> easier >> >> >> for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate >> >> >> redundancies >> >> >> and >> >> >> make the content easier to find by customers and search engines >> >> >> through >> >> >> improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and >> >> >> spam >> >> >> management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by >> >> >> encouraging a >> >> >> healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, >> >> >> Microsoft >> >> >> will >> >> >> begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums >> >> >> technology >> >> >> and discontinue support for newsgroups. >> >> >> >> >> >> In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for >> >> >> those >> >> >> users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate >> >> >> in >> >> >> the >> >> >> newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP >> >> >> Bridge >> >> >> which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers >> >> >> to >> >> >> the >> >> >> forums they would like to participate in and continue having the >> >> >> NTTP >> >> >> reader >> >> >> functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and >> >> >> set >> >> >> up >> >> >> the >> >> >> NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? >> >> >> All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, >> >> >> 2010 >> >> >> and >> >> >> October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased >> >> >> approach, >> >> >> starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to >> >> >> more >> >> >> active ones throughout the course of the next six months. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? >> >> >> Effective July 1, 2010, this newsgroup will be closed. >> >> >> >> >> >> In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup >> >> >> is >> >> >> scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to >> >> >> invite >> >> >> you to participate at >> >> >> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/group/WindowsAnswers >> >> >> forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are >> >> >> finalized. >> >> >> Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx >> >> >> >> >> >> Who Should I Contact with any Questions? >> >> >> Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing >> >> >> to >> >> >> NNTP(a)microsoft.com >> >> > >> >> . >> >> >>
From: Charlie Russel - MVP on 23 Jun 2010 10:33 Yup, still waiting. And hoping for an answer _before_ we lose this NG. As for your web interface, Carlos, I'm afraid there's little chance it will still exist. But you should find the Forums quite acceptable, once we have a new home. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C62343C7-7463-4D97-8449-2DCABE2D1E45(a)microsoft.com... > R.C., > Thanks for the tip. > In any way this group is intended to disappear. > There's no 64-bit anything offered by Microsoft in the forums. > Still trying to find a new home. > :( > Carlos > > "R. C. White" wrote: > >> Hi, Carlos. >> >> I'm not expert enough to say for sure if Discussions will continue. But >> my >> understanding is that the "Discussions" interface has always been just >> another way to view these Usenet newsgroups without using a newsreader - >> by >> reading them in a Web browser. Over the years, I've tried many times to >> use >> that Discussions interface myself - and just never could get comfy with >> it. >> I never could stand to try it for more than a half-hour at a time. >> >> Quick, Carlos, before it's too late to see what I mean, click on this >> link: >> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general >> >> That one click should fire up your default newsreader (OE? WM? WLM? >> Thunderbird, Agent or other 3rd-party newsreader?); create a News Account >> for you on this soon-to-disappear Microsoft public news server, which is >> free and does not require you to log on; subscribe you to THIS newsgroup; >> download the 300 latest messages here; and display the newest post in the >> Reading Pane for you to read. As you will see, these are the identical >> messages that you see in Discussions, but presented in a different >> format. >> >> This is the way I've read all the Usenet newsgroups for about 15 years >> now, >> since OE first appeared in Win95, and I'm still reading them in the same >> way >> in WLMail - for a few more weeks. I will soon switch to Forums - but >> reluctantly. >> >> I'm sorry for not pointing this out much earlier, Carlos, but I simply >> didn't notice until now that your address is @discussions.microsoft.com. >> :^{ >> >> RC >> -- >> R. C. White, CPA >> San Marcos, TX >> rc(a)grandecom.net >> Microsoft Windows MVP >> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64) >> >> "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:54CB3809-5974-451B-A71F-FFF7917997AD(a)microsoft.com... >> > I wonder whether the web access I use: >> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general&lang=en&cr=US&mid=c05d0339-b4b4-4e56-b337-413daf620e2c >> > will still be alive "the day after" (a.k.a. July the 1st). >> > Carlos >> > >> > "R. C. White" wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, Steve. >> >> >> >> Thanks for the reminder of non-MS Usenet servers. Fortunately, my ISP >> >> (Grande Communications, here in San Marcos, TX) still carries over >> >> 100,000 >> >> NGs - via Giganews, I think. So, while I haven't yet subscribed to >> >> THIS >> >> NG - and a few others that I'm still reading via MSNews - I'll be >> >> adding >> >> those to my Quicken and Win7.general NGs on that server soon. >> >> >> >> I tried eternal-september.org several months ago but probably won't go >> >> back >> >> to it unless - or until - Grande follows the trend and discontinues >> >> Usenet, >> >> too. :>( >> >> >> >> RC >> >> >> >> "Steve Foster" <stevefoster(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >> >> news:xn0gvotc9471n9f009(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> > Carlos wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> High time for asking Dalai Lama about re-incarnation. >> >> >> Maybe he can tell us where we will be born again!. >> >> >> :) >> >> >> Seriously speaking, I am deeply worried that this specific >> >> >> comunity, >> >> >> built with such a hard effort of everybody is at the verge of >> >> >> extinction. Like, E.L.I. in "Deep Impact". >> >> >> For the moment, my main concern is Argentina vs Greece tomorrow. >> >> > >> >> > I'm posting to the group using Eternal September. I don't expect it >> >> > to >> >> > go anywhere on July 1, just because Microsoft drop it from >> >> > msnews.microsoft.com. >> >> > >> >> > Go visit www.eternal-september.org to get yourselves a free account >> >> > (but not all at once!), and then this newsgroup can live on >> >> > forever... >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Steve Foster >>
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