From: Alan Harris-Reid on
Any idea how we get rid of this 'noise'? Will it eventually go away if
we ignore it, or is there anything the moderators can do to clean-up
this (normally) wonderful resource for Python programmers?

Regards,
Alan
From: Stephen Hansen on
On 6/16/10 10:56 AM, Alan Harris-Reid wrote:
> Any idea how we get rid of this 'noise'? Will it eventually go away if
> we ignore it, or is there anything the moderators can do to clean-up
> this (normally) wonderful resource for Python programmers?

The problem is, this forum has lots of access points. Its not entirely a
mailing list. Its also a usenet newsgroup (utterly uncontrollable). Its
got multiple bidirectional mirrors. The python-list version of the group
is fortunately largely free from spam as its spam filters are pretty
solid, but other access points vary.

I *think* from looking at his headers, he's posting via Google Groups.
FWIW, since its a Gmail user, I've reported him for abuse to both the
Gmail and Google Groups teams. If they decide to do anything, who knows.
I've also reported all his mails as Spam, so hopefully they'll just get
junked. Maybe the python-list spam filters can be tweaked, who knows.

He'll probably always show up on the usenet/Google Groups part of things
though. Cuz Google's notoriously bad at controlling spam on Groups(*)

--

Stephen Hansen
... Also: Ixokai
... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io
... Blog: http://meh.ixokai.io/

P.S. This is something which confuses me greatly. Considering how
*great* the spam filters are on Gmail-- I literally get virtually
nothing in my inbox-- how in world are Google Groups so full of junk?
They doesn't Google run the groups messages through similar filters? Sigh.

From: Mark Lawrence on
On 16/06/2010 18:56, Alan Harris-Reid wrote:
> Any idea how we get rid of this 'noise'? Will it eventually go away if
> we ignore it, or is there anything the moderators can do to clean-up
> this (normally) wonderful resource for Python programmers?
>
> Regards,
> Alan

Alan,

From an earlier thread by Stephen Hansen, timed at 16/06/2010 07:17 BST.

"No, we won't.

Reported as abuse.

This forum is for discussion of Python. Python is apolitical,
areligious, asociological, and only philosophical when you speak the
High Holy Truth of the Zen as Delivered Unto Us by He Who Is The Timbot."

All,

I actually don't know how to report such things because of the
combination of c.l.py, gmane.comp.python.general and
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list, possibly others?.
Could somebody please show the correct direction?

Kindest regards.

Mark Lawrence

From: geremy condra on
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Stephen Hansen
<me+list/python(a)ixokai.io> wrote:
> On 6/16/10 10:56 AM, Alan Harris-Reid wrote:
>> Any idea how we get rid of this 'noise'?  Will it eventually go away if
>> we ignore it, or is there anything the moderators can do to clean-up
>> this (normally) wonderful resource for Python programmers?
>
> The problem is, this forum has lots of access points. Its not entirely a
> mailing list. Its also a usenet newsgroup (utterly uncontrollable). Its
> got multiple bidirectional mirrors. The python-list version of the group
> is fortunately largely free from spam as its spam filters are pretty
> solid, but other access points vary.
>
> I *think* from looking at his headers, he's posting via Google Groups.
> FWIW, since its a Gmail user, I've reported him for abuse to both the
> Gmail and Google Groups teams. If they decide to do anything, who knows.
> I've also reported all his mails as Spam, so hopefully they'll just get
> junked. Maybe the python-list spam filters can be tweaked, who knows.
>
> He'll probably always show up on the usenet/Google Groups part of things
> though. Cuz Google's notoriously bad at controlling spam on Groups(*)
>
> --
>
>   Stephen Hansen
>   ... Also: Ixokai
>   ... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io
>   ... Blog: http://meh.ixokai.io/
>
> P.S. This is something which confuses me greatly. Considering how
> *great* the spam filters are on Gmail-- I literally get virtually
> nothing in my inbox-- how in world are Google Groups so full of junk?
> They doesn't Google run the groups messages through similar filters? Sigh..

I have never understood this. On the positive side, if you use gmail
you can set up a filter to auto-junk his rants.

Geremy Condra
From: Stephen Hansen on
On 6/16/10 12:21 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> I actually don't know how to report such things because of the
> combination of c.l.py, gmane.comp.python.general and
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list, possibly others?.
> Could somebody please show the correct direction?

It depends on its source.

If the email is posted on usenet, really the only hope you have is
abuse@<their domain> and prayer. I.e. abuse(a)theirisp.com

Gmail has its own report form:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse

If its over Google Groups, you can go find the offending message in
Google Groups, and click 'more options', 'Report this Message' -- I have
little hope this is very effective, considering the state of Groups.

If its posted to the mailing list itself, the list admins can take
action. I dunno how often they do (then again, this sort of stuff never
originates from the mailing list)

--

Stephen Hansen
... Also: Ixokai
... Mail: me+list/python (AT) ixokai (DOT) io
... Blog: http://meh.ixokai.io/