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From: RoseW on 10 Dec 2009 19:42 I posted earlier asking about what might happen removing Xp and the dual boot screen. I didn't print that info out and take it with me to the repair shop. A 'shoulda done' situation <grin> I did verbalize the commands for editing that were listed in the replies to my query to the computer person. BUT that wasn't info that he had in his list of things to do....nothing he did worked which included going through the repair dialog choices. He had a utility that allowed him to look at the Xp directory and there was a Boot listing there. In the disk management the Win7 drive was listed as the boot drive. Before I realized fully what he was doing the Xp drive was reformatted and now the system really wouldn't boot. THAT was exactly the info relayed here and I was speechless. BUT I had made an image using the Windows utility and it was stored on an external drive. It included both Win7 and the Xp drive.That image would not copy completely. It went through all the motions and then produced a pop up box that it was not completed successfully. SO....4 hours later it was a complete reinstall which copied the original Win7 to be the old-win copy. The computer and user name was typed in differently and whether that has anything to do with or not but I had to take ownership of all files and folders in the separate data drive. Only folders of images would allow me access. The homegroup had to be set up again between 2 Win7 computers and this main machine will not hold the homegroup settings. One factor that has the software reinstall be less painless is being able to copy the related folders from the Appdata in the old copy and insert into the operating Win7. The software installed included e-mail with all configurations present and operating. He didn't charge me for this adventure but I concluded I might as well have had more courage and fumbled through it myself. I regret doing the dual boot set-up. Its a cleaner install without an additional operating system and there is access to any files from the old copy. Bottom line its crucial to know exactly what you are doing setting up a dual boot structure with Win7.....and remember that restore points are lost in Win. Rose
From: Dennis Pack on 11 Dec 2009 00:01 Rose: I'm glad to hear that you finally got the system up and running after this induced condition caused by a technician (?) that you paid. If you get into a situation that you need to dual boot with an older operating system, the easiest way is to backup all data or make an image of the current operating system then verify that they are installed in order of age (that eliminates losing the ability to boot the operating systems). Losing the restore points can be eliminated following the following support article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185. Using VistaBootPro or EasyBCD can assist in naming each operating system on the dual/multiple boot screen. Have a great day. -- Dennis Pack Win-7 Enterprise x64, Win-7 Professional x64. "RoseW" <wdmn(a)hurontel.on.ca> wrote in message news:OtEs$qfeKHA.2596(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I posted earlier asking about what might happen removing Xp and the dual >boot screen. > I didn't print that info out and take it with me to the repair shop. A > 'shoulda done' situation <grin> > I did verbalize the commands for editing that were listed in the replies > to my query to the computer person. > BUT that wasn't info that he had in his list of things to do....nothing he > did worked which included going through the repair dialog choices. > He had a utility that allowed him to look at the Xp directory and there > was a Boot listing there. In the disk management the Win7 drive was listed > as the boot drive. > Before I realized fully what he was doing the Xp drive was reformatted and > now the system really wouldn't boot. THAT was exactly the info relayed > here and I was speechless. > BUT > I had made an image using the Windows utility and it was stored on an > external drive. It included both Win7 and the Xp drive.That image would > not copy completely. It went through all the motions and then produced a > pop up box that it was not completed successfully. > SO....4 hours later it was a complete reinstall which copied the original > Win7 to be the old-win copy. > The computer and user name was typed in differently and whether that has > anything to do with or not but I had to take ownership of all files and > folders in the separate data drive. Only folders of images would allow me > access. The homegroup had to be set up again between 2 Win7 computers and > this main machine will not hold the homegroup settings. > > One factor that has the software reinstall be less painless is being able > to copy the related folders from the Appdata in the old copy and insert > into the operating Win7. The software installed included e-mail with all > configurations present and operating. > > He didn't charge me for this adventure but I concluded I might as well > have had more courage and fumbled through it myself. I regret doing the > dual boot set-up. Its a cleaner install without an additional operating > system and there is access to any files from the old copy. > > Bottom line its crucial to know exactly what you are doing setting up a > dual boot structure with Win7.....and remember that restore points are > lost in Win. > > Rose > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4677 (20091210) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4677 (20091210) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: RoseW on 11 Dec 2009 00:22
On 12/11/2009 12:01 AM, Dennis Pack wrote: > Rose: > I'm glad to hear that you finally got the system up and running after > this induced condition caused by a technician (?) that you paid. If you > get into a situation that you need to dual boot with an older operating > system, the easiest way is to backup all data or make an image of the > current operating system then verify that they are installed in order of > age (that eliminates losing the ability to boot the operating systems). > Losing the restore points can be eliminated following the following > support article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185. Using > VistaBootPro or EasyBCD can assist in naming each operating system on > the dual/multiple boot screen. Have a great day. > No he didn't charge...even though me and the machine were there for 4 hours. He's a sensible guy in a small town environment even if he is the only guy in town <grin> When I used the Windows 7 imaging facility there was no opportunity to just choose Win 7. Both xp and win7 were checked and grayed out. What I learned from my first imaging situation is that one never knows if the imaged copy is useable.....until its put to use. I might have been one of his first Windows 7 installs. Since then he is advising people to just go with the routine of having the old system copied. Its a major snow storm here for the past 24 hours so not much else to do but redo the set up <grin> Rose |