Repeated Installations of Flash Player on Win 7
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From: BillW50 on 30 Apr 2010 14:11 In news:6848fd3a-50e6-4818-98ea-b7dab75dafa0(a)r11g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, CJB typed on Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:11:12 -0700 (PDT): > Thanks again for your help and interest. I've tested all on my laptop > with XP using Safari, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, and IE8. All works > perfectly. > > Now I have to download the other browsers to my netbook. This requires > a visit to Pret or McD to use their web connections for free. Hello Chris. Please keep us updated. And say, how do you like Win 7 (Starter) anyway? -- Bill Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2 (quit Windows updates back in May 2009)
From: ken10254 on 30 Apr 2010 22:44 On Apr 30, 3:11 am, CJB <chrisjbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 30, 12:06 am, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote: > > > > > Innews:41717e98-bb1c-4156-a362-39b3c440e904(a)o14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, > > CJB typed on Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:41:47 -0700 (PDT): > > > > Thank you for the hints. I have tried Flash 9 - but YouTube and BBC > > > all complain that its out-of-date. So Flash 10 it has to be. > > > Hello Chris! Do they complain, but still work? A lot of websites > > complain about using older versions but you can still continue and it > > still works most of the time. > > > > This doesn't happen with XP SP3 on my laptop. It seems to be a thing > > > with Win 7. > > > That could be, IDK. > > > > I will try to see if Foxfire etc. are also effected. Chris B. > > > Firefox requires a different Flash install. The one for IE won't work > > with Firefox. So to have both working, you need two Flash players > > installs. Using Firefox on a website that needs Flash should tell you > > what you need to do. Just like websites when using IE. > > > -- > > Bill > > Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2 > > Thanks again for your help and interest. I've tested all on my laptop > with XP using Safari, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, and IE8. All works > perfectly. > > Now I have to download the other browsers to my netbook. This requires > a visit to Pret or McD to use their web connections for free. > > Chris B. Have you tried installing flash by right clicking on the .exe and installing using administrator privileges? I think it is "run as administrator" in the right click content list. I have had to do this on some programs to get them to install correctly. Worth a try. Also, try the flash betas that are available. Maybe they will install better for you. Good luck.
From: CJB on 10 May 2010 06:02 On May 1, 3:44 am, ken10254 <kwolf...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 30, 3:11 am, CJB <chrisjbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 30, 12:06 am, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote: > > > > Innews:41717e98-bb1c-4156-a362-39b3c440e904(a)o14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, > > > CJB typed on Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:41:47 -0700 (PDT): > > > > > Thank you for the hints. I have tried Flash 9 - but YouTube and BBC > > > > all complain that its out-of-date. So Flash 10 it has to be. > > > > Hello Chris! Do they complain, but still work? A lot of websites > > > complain about using older versions but you can still continue and it > > > still works most of the time. > > > > > This doesn't happen with XP SP3 on my laptop. It seems to be a thing > > > > with Win 7. > > > > That could be, IDK. > > > > > I will try to see if Foxfire etc. are also effected. Chris B. > > > > Firefox requires a different Flash install. The one for IE won't work > > > with Firefox. So to have both working, you need two Flash players > > > installs. Using Firefox on a website that needs Flash should tell you > > > what you need to do. Just like websites when using IE. > > > > -- > > > Bill > > > Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2 > > > Thanks again for your help and interest. I've tested all on my laptop > > with XP using Safari, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, and IE8. All works > > perfectly. > > > Now I have to download the other browsers to my netbook. This requires > > a visit to Pret or McD to use their web connections for free. > > > Chris B. > > Have you tried installing flash by right clicking on the .exe and > installing using administrator privileges? I think it is "run as > administrator" in the right click content list. I have had to do this > on some programs to get them to install correctly. Worth a try. Also, > try the flash betas that are available. Maybe they will install better > for you. > Good luck.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - OK I have tried everything advised and STILL I 'lose' the IE8 version of Flash Player 10 after a reboot. Firstly I removed entirely the pre-installed McAfee virus app. I've ensured that I am in Admin. mode, I do a right mouse click and install FP as Administrator. I have removed FP 10 with the special app., manually deleted the windows/system32/macromed folder - rebooted - and then re-installed FP 10. I've checked the settings in IE8 Options and the FP add-on is enabled. I can't use an earlier version of FP 'cos both YouTube and BBC complain that it isn't the latest. The version of FP for Firefox, Chrime, Safari and Opera all remain installed - and working - all of the time. Chris B. P.S. Compared to XP I don't like Win 7. The latter is less intuitive to use.
From: CJB on 26 May 2010 10:26
On May 10, 11:02 am, CJB <chrisjbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 1, 3:44 am, ken10254 <kwolf...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 30, 3:11 am, CJB <chrisjbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 30, 12:06 am, "BillW50" <Bill...(a)aol.kom> wrote: > > > > > Innews:41717e98-bb1c-4156-a362-39b3c440e904(a)o14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, > > > > CJB typed on Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:41:47 -0700 (PDT): > > > > > > Thank you for the hints. I have triedFlash9 - but YouTube and BBC > > > > > all complain that its out-of-date. SoFlash10it has to be. > > > > > Hello Chris! Do they complain, but still work? A lot of websites > > > > complain about using older versions but you can still continue and it > > > > still works most of the time. > > > > > > This doesn't happen with XP SP3 on my laptop. It seems to be a thing > > > > > with Win 7. > > > > > That could be, IDK. > > > > > > I will try to see if Foxfire etc. are also effected. Chris B. > > > > > Firefox requires a differentFlashinstall. The one for IE won't work > > > > with Firefox. So to have both working, you need twoFlashplayers > > > > installs. Using Firefox on a website that needsFlashshould tell you > > > > what you need to do. Just like websites when using IE. > > > > > -- > > > > Bill > > > > Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) 1 of 3 - Windows XP SP2 > > > > Thanks again for your help and interest. I've tested all on my laptop > > > with XP using Safari, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, andIE8. All works > > > perfectly. > > > > Now I have to download the other browsers to my netbook. This requires > > > a visit to Pret or McD to use their web connections for free. > > > > Chris B. > > > Have you tried installingflashby right clicking on the .exe and > > installing using administrator privileges? I think it is "run as > > administrator" in the right click content list. I have had to do this > > on some programs to get them to install correctly. Worth a try. Also, > > try theflashbetas that are available. Maybe they will install better > > for you. > > Good luck.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > OK I have tried everything advised and STILL I 'lose' theIE8version > ofFlashPlayer10after a reboot. > > Firstly I removed entirely the pre-installed McAfee virus app. > > I've ensured that I am in Admin. mode, I do a right mouse click and > install FP as Administrator. > > I have removed FP10with the special app., manually deleted the > windows/system32/macromed folder - rebooted - and then re-installed FP10. > > I've checked the settings inIE8Options and the FP add-on is enabled. > > I can't use an earlier version of FP 'cos both YouTube and BBC > complain that it isn't the latest. > > The version of FP for Firefox, Chrime, Safari and Opera all remain > installed - and working - all of the time. > > Chris B. > > P.S. Compared to XP I don't like Win 7. The latter is less intuitive > to use.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I think that I can now categorically state that the cause of the problem of repeated installs of FP 10 with IE8 running on Windows 7 is Microsoft's 'User Account Control.' It was pre-installed on my Acer netbook at one 'click' below the highest level. Even if FP 10 was downloaded and installed for IE8 as an Add-on rebooting or restarting Win 7 caused FP 10 to appear to get uninstalled, although it was actually just removed from IE8's Add-on list. Anything requiring FP 10 such as YouTube, BBC Live News or custom SWP files would not then play when browsed by IE8. However the FP 10 files were still extant and FP 10 was still installed - its just that it got removed as an Add-on from IE8 by the UAC. If IE8 was opened and FP 10 was left like this (installed on the PC but removed as an Add-on), maybe whilst another browser was being used, it appears that UAC would suddenly 'wake up' and ask if FP 10 should be installed. Responding with a 'yes' it would be quickly be 'installed' to IE8 but actually this only amounted to it being relinked as an Add- on once again. The 'solution' is to lower the UAC level to the lowest level - that is to turn it off - but with the attendant risks. Rebooting / restarting afterwards then has no effect on FP 10 and this remains a valid Add-on for IE8, i.e. it does not appear to get 'uninstalled.' The above solution also cures the need for repeated installations of mobile broadband dongle s/w. Another irritation. With regards to UAC on a one-user Acer netbook I think that it is relatively safe to lower the level or even to close it with the assumption that the sole user - presumably the owner - knows what he/ she is doing with regards to downloading and installing apps. Chris J Brady P.S. This issue has also been posted onto the Social Answers Forums at Microsoft.com - however NO-ONE from MS or an MS MVP was knowledgeable enough or could be bothered to research out the cause and respond to concerns. Now Adobe and Microsoft need to get together and get a fix out for this issue. |