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From: nospam on 28 Oct 2009 09:45 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > nospam(a)nevis.com wrote: >> TheM wrote: >>> "vaughn" <vaughnsimonHATESSPAM(a)gmail.FAKE.com> wrote in message news:hc7utq$1a1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> "Don Lancaster" <don(a)tinaja.com> wrote in message news:7kooa3F39fllbU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>> For net energy, a quarter per peak pv watt is needed. >>>>> >>>>> Even then, it would be many years after a quarter per watt for actual breakeven, owing to all the previously lost energy. >>>>> >>>> Huh? I usually agree with Don on these things, but here he seems to be confusing energy break even with economic break even. I a >>>> perfect world they might be comparable, but I doubt if that is true in the real world. >>>> >>>> Vaughn >>> I think what he wants to say is that energy break even is many years down the road, >>> possibly decades. And fixing and maintaining it might kill the small net energy surplus. >>> And before we get to break even we might have new, much better technology. >>> >>> M >>> >>> >>> >> Who knows, but for a $1.98 a watt it's a good deal if you want to give >> it a go. I know I could run my home office off a couple of panels >> (laptop, printer etc.)Even having a couple would keep the lights on >> in an emergency. > > > If there is enough sun to power the lights, you don't need them. > > After 4pm six months of the year, yes I do need lights.
From: newsletters on 28 Oct 2009 12:50 On Oct 28, 4:51 am, "stu" <no where just yet> wrote: > <m...(a)sushi.com> wrote in message > > Worse yet, there is plenty of nuclear waste > stored at the reactor sites that is not in any containment vessel. > They let the rods cool a bit before even considering transferring them > offsite, and we now know Yucca Mountain will not be opened. I won't claim to have seen every nuclear site. But of all those I have seen, not one had spent fuel outside of the multi-layer casks that have something like 55 tons of shielding. Walking and working around these storage buildings and/or "pads", my dosimeter never went over 0.01 millirads per hour dose rate. You'll get more exposure than that just walking on the sidewalk beside by the granite-faced walls of the bank downtime.
From: Rich Grise on 28 Oct 2009 12:14 On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:50:43 -0700, newsletters(a)gmail.com wrote: > On Oct 28, 4:51�am, "stu" <no where just yet> wrote: >> >> Worse yet, there is plenty of nuclear waste stored at the reactor sites >> that is not in any containment vessel. They let the rods cool a bit >> before even considering transferring them offsite, and we now know Yucca >> Mountain will not be opened. > > I won't claim to have seen every nuclear site. But of all those I have > seen, not one had spent fuel outside of the multi-layer casks that have > something like 55 tons of shielding. Walking and working around these > storage buildings and/or "pads", my dosimeter never went over 0.01 > millirads per hour dose rate. You'll get more exposure than that just > walking on the sidewalk beside by the granite-faced walls of the bank > downtime. Just put the waste here, until we heal the paranoia and start reprocessing it: http://www.wipp.energy.gov/ Cheers! Rich
From: Rich Grise on 28 Oct 2009 12:21 On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:02:56 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote: >> >> "Don T" <-painter-(a)louvre.org> wrote in message >> >> news:toWdnWVkGLbonnvXnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >> >>> >> >>> It is a worthy thing to fight for one's freedom; it is another sight >> >>> finer to fight for another man's. ~Mark Twain >> >> What's the value of fighting for the freedom of a man who doesn't want >> Freedom but wants Mommy? > > How many times do you need to be told that you have no value? Oh, I already know I have no value to _YOU_. But what's your opinion worth? Frankly, I consider being hated by the likes of you to be high praise. Michael, that hatred of me that you're carrying around in your heart has precisely zero effect on me, but it's eating you up from the inside out. And you make no bones about announcing the symptoms manifested by the hatred in your heart. Hatred doesn't affect the one who is hated, but it kills the one doing the hating. I hope you can heal. Good Luck! Rich
From: Michael A. Terrell on 28 Oct 2009 19:44
Rich Grise wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:02:56 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote: > >> >> "Don T" <-painter-(a)louvre.org> wrote in message > >> >> news:toWdnWVkGLbonnvXnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > >> >>> > >> >>> It is a worthy thing to fight for one's freedom; it is another sight > >> >>> finer to fight for another man's. ~Mark Twain > >> > >> What's the value of fighting for the freedom of a man who doesn't want > >> Freedom but wants Mommy? > > > > How many times do you need to be told that you have no value? > > Oh, I already know I have no value to _YOU_. > > But what's your opinion worth? Frankly, I consider being hated by the > likes of you to be high praise. Hate you? I pity you. > > Michael, that hatred of me that you're carrying around in your heart > has precisely zero effect on me, but it's eating you up from the inside > out. And you make no bones about announcing the symptoms manifested by > the hatred in your heart. > > Hatred doesn't affect the one who is hated, but it kills the one doing > the hating. > > I hope you can heal. I hope you do, but I have great doubts. -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary! |