From: Michael Engel on
On 30 Dez., 17:15, Mel <mwil...(a)the-wire.com> wrote:
> How did you find out it was a MIPS processor?  There are reports of people
> running Linux and BSDs on the Loongson Dragon chips, but I can find nothing
> about these Anky-7802's.

The "Anky" is most probably the Anyka AK7802 CPU, an ARM926 variant.
Not much
information is available on that chip, however (I have one of these
netbooks
here) you can try to reverse engineer some stuff using HaRET
(http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET). There are similar
netbooks
available using another ARM926 variant, the Jade Z228.

-- Michael
From: larwe on
On Dec 31, 8:05 am, Michael Engel <en...(a)multicores.org> wrote:
> On 30 Dez., 17:15, Mel <mwil...(a)the-wire.com> wrote:
>
> > How did you find out it was a MIPS processor?  There are reports of people
> > running Linux and BSDs on the Loongson Dragon chips, but I can find nothing
> > about these Anky-7802's.
>
> The "Anky" is most probably the Anyka AK7802 CPU, an ARM926 variant.
> Not much

BIZARRE. They must sell the same form factor plastic with a different
motherboard containing a MIPS core.
From: Paul Gotch on
larwe <zwsdotcom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I had read that, but it doesn't quite gel with the explicit statement
> from all [Chinese] parties concerned that the goal is to stop paying
> royalties to the US. They said this, in those words. I would assume
> that China has a lot of smart VLSI guys who are experts in designing
> around patents where necessary...

China is a member of the WTO and therefore has to abide by rules around
IP. It's smart to license the patents now if they only run for a few
years and entirely meshes with eventually not wanting to pay royalties.

China has been attempting to do the same thing (having a different
standard with no royalties) with wireless standards hence TD-SCDMA.
However there are also WCDMA and CDMA-2000 networks in China.

Being different is a double edged sword it means you don't have to pay
royalties to anyone but it also limits your export market because no
one else uses the standard you've developed.

> What sanctions, exactly, would Intel ask the US government to
> apply? :)

Import ban, and it wouldn't be the US it would be WTO and all member
countries where the patents exist. Obviously this doesn't hurt the sale
in the domestic market. Similar things have already come close to
happening with IP disputes between US companies. However Intel have
their own troubles with the FTC at the moment...

-p
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Paul Gotch
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From: Paul Gotch on
larwe <zwsdotcom(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> BIZARRE. They must sell the same form factor plastic with a different
> motherboard containing a MIPS core.

There are a large number of these things based on Ingenic Semiconductor
chips. They have a MIPS32 chip running at between 240 and 360MHz which
they brand "XBurst" architecture. This appears to be unrelated to the
Godson/Longsoon chips.

However interestingly many of the later products by OEMs are using
Marvell XScale (ARMv5TE) chips. This may be because the Marvell have a
XScale based TD-SCDMA SoC which could be used to add mobile data
capabilities to such things.

-p
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Paul Gotch
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