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From: Beauregard T. Shagnasty on 26 Feb 2010 13:45 Stan Brown wrote: > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >> Stan Brown wrote: >>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>> IrfanView can be downloaded free of charge, but it is not free >>> >>> Funny, the author disagrees. >>> >>> Irfanview most certainly *is* free. The very first sentence of >>> http://irfanview.com/main_what_is_engl.htm >>> begins >>> "IrfanView is a very fast, small, compact and innovative FREEWARE >>> (for non-commercial use) graphic viewer" >> >> When you misquote, you can argue anything. > > Certainly, but I did not misquote. Error by omission. >> Thomas's full phrase, which you snipped inappropriately, said: >> "IrfanView can be downloaded free of charge, but it is not free or Open >> Source software, .." >> >> "Free or Open Source" is a group of words frequently used together, >> especially in the Linux world. > > Perhaps. But that's kind of irrelevant to a Windows-only program, > isn't it? Are you claiming there are no open source applications for the Windows platform? What about OpenOffice? > In any event, what the PP said in English is that it's not free > software (false) and it's not open source (true). I can't imagine > why the PP chose to capitalize "Open Source", but that further > undercuts your premise since the PP did *not* capitalize "free". This is Usenet, not an English grammar class. So, are you also claiming you win? -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 26 Feb 2010 17:53 Stan Brown wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> Google is your friend. [psf 6.1] >> >> IrfanView can be downloaded free of charge, but it is not free > > Funny, the author disagrees. You misquoted me, perhaps a straw man argument. And no, "free software" does not need to start with an `F'; context is key. PointedEars
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 26 Feb 2010 18:08 Jonathan N. Little wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >> jeff wrote: >>> Stan Brown wrote: >>>> Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:25:43 -0500 from jeff<jeff_thies(a)att.net>: >>>>> A thumbnail 100px x 50px, does not carry a lot of detail. >>>>> >>>>> There are no hard and fast rules. Just guidelines. >>>> >>>> One "rookie mistake" is resizing the whole picture. Often it is much >>>> better to crop it first,then resize only the interesting part to make >>>> the thumbnail. >>>> >>>> Extremely easy to do in Irfanview: mouse, Ctrl-Y, Ctrl-R, select >>>> size, S (for Save As). >>> >>> [...] >> I have not tried the keyboard >> shortcuts yet, but generally the same can be done with The GIMP, which >> is free software, and consequently can run natively almost everywhere. > > True, but IrfanView can do quite a lot with a much simplified interface. I would not call The GIMP's interface complicated with regard to cropping and scaling. Perhaps you have used an older version. > The batch feature does not require programing experience like Gimp Neither The GIMP nor using its batch feature require programming experience. > so it is more accessible for the home user. As was that plugin. > So handy that I have in on my Ubuntu boxes via Wine. A Linux port would > be nice. But unnecessary, the license issue aside. Linux boxes have ImageMagick packages. Please trim your quotes to the relevant minimum. PointedEars
From: Jonathan N. Little on 26 Feb 2010 21:40 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Jonathan N. Little wrote: >> True, but IrfanView can do quite a lot with a much simplified interface. > > I would not call The GIMP's interface complicated with regard to cropping > and scaling. Perhaps you have used an older version. The detached multiple "toolbar" window has been a source of criticism for some time now. >> The batch feature does not require programing experience like Gimp > > Neither The GIMP nor using its batch feature require programming > experience. IIRC your need to write a script...I would say that "requires" programming experience. > >> so it is more accessible for the home user. > > As was that plugin. What plugin? -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
From: Ben C on 27 Feb 2010 04:12
On 2010-02-26, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(a)web.de> wrote: > Jonathan N. Little wrote: [...] >> The batch feature does not require programing experience like Gimp > > Neither The GIMP nor using its batch feature require programming > experience. Last time I tried using the GIMP in batch mode it involved programming in Scheme. [...] > But unnecessary, the license issue aside. Linux boxes have ImageMagick > packages. Yes, I would use ImageMagick for batched cropping. You just use commands like this: $ convert -crop '100x100+200+200!' image1.png image2.png |