From: Yimin Rong on
Given f(x) = k/x where k and x > 0

Rotating the function by pi/4 (i.e. 45 degrees) can be done by
multiplying (x, f(x)) with a transformation matrix to give (x*,
f*(x)). After the transformation, y* is still > 0, but x* can be any
value. Is there a way to convert this to a "regular" function?

E.g. suppose g() is f() rotated by pi/4, then:

g(0) = k^(1/2)
g(a) = g(-a)
g(k - 1/2) = k + 1/2

What is g()?

Thanks for reading.

Regards,

Yimin
From: Ross on
On Jul 14, 12:18 pm, Yimin Rong <yiminr...(a)yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Given f(x) = k/x where k and x > 0
>
> Rotating the function by pi/4 (i.e. 45 degrees) can be done by
> multiplying (x, f(x)) with a transformation matrix to give (x*,
> f*(x)). After the transformation, y* is still > 0, but x* can be any
> value. Is there a way to convert this to a "regular" function?
>
> E.g. suppose g() is f() rotated by pi/4, then:
>
> g(0) = k^(1/2)
> g(a) = g(-a)
> g(k - 1/2) = k + 1/2
>
> What is g()?
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Regards,
>
> Yimin

Your rotation matrix corresponds to y*=(x+y)/sqrt(2), x*=(x-y)/
sqrt(2).
If you solve these for x and y in terms of x* and y* you can
substitute
into your original equation y=k/x, getting y^2=x^2+2k or y=sqrt(x^2+2k)
From: Henry on
On 14 July, 20:56, Ross <rmill...(a)pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Jul 14, 12:18 pm, Yimin Rong <yiminr...(a)yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Given f(x) = k/x where k and x > 0
>
> > Rotating the function by pi/4 (i.e. 45 degrees) can be done by
> > multiplying (x, f(x)) with a transformation matrix to give (x*,
> > f*(x)). After the transformation, y* is still > 0, but x* can be any
> > value. Is there a way to convert this to a "regular" function?
>
> > E.g. suppose g() is f() rotated by pi/4, then:
>
> > g(0) = k^(1/2)
> > g(a) = g(-a)
> > g(k - 1/2) = k + 1/2
>
> > What is g()?
>
> > Thanks for reading.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Yimin
>
> Your rotation matrix corresponds to y*=(x+y)/sqrt(2), x*=(x-y)/
> sqrt(2).
> If you solve these for x and y in terms of x* and y* you can
> substitute
> into your original equation y=k/x, getting y^2=x^2+2k or y=sqrt(x^2+2k)

Indeed.
and so g(0) = (2k)^(1/2)
[the other two are correct]
From: cwldoc on
> Given f(x) = k/x where k and x > 0
>
> Rotating the function by pi/4 (i.e. 45 degrees) can
> be done by
> multiplying (x, f(x)) with a transformation matrix to
> give (x*,
> f*(x)). After the transformation, y* is still > 0,
> but x* can be any
> value. Is there a way to convert this to a "regular"
> function?
>
> E.g. suppose g() is f() rotated by pi/4, then:
>
> g(0) = k^(1/2)
> g(a) = g(-a)
> g(k - 1/2) = k + 1/2
>
> What is g()?
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Regards,
>
> Yimin

The coordinates (X*, Y*) are rotated clockwise by pi/4 (counterclockwise by -pi/4) from (X, Y), so a point with coordinates (x*, y*) in the (X*, Y*) system has coordinates
x = cos(-pi/4) x* - sin(-pi/4) y* = (x* + y*)/sqrt(2)
y = sin(-pi/4) x* + cos(-pi/4) y* = (-x* + y*)/sqrt(2)
in the (X, Y) system.

Substitution into xy = k gives
(x* + y*)/(-x* + y*) = 2k

simplifying,
y* = sqrt[(x*)^2 + 2k]

where we are justified in choosing y* > 0, because we were given that x and k are > 0 (and thus y > 0), so
y* = (x + y)/sqrt(2) > 0.
From: cwldoc on
> > Given f(x) = k/x where k and x > 0
> >
> > Rotating the function by pi/4 (i.e. 45 degrees)
> can
> > be done by
> > multiplying (x, f(x)) with a transformation matrix
> to
> > give (x*,
> > f*(x)). After the transformation, y* is still > 0,
> > but x* can be any
> > value. Is there a way to convert this to a
> "regular"
> > function?
> >
> > E.g. suppose g() is f() rotated by pi/4, then:
> >
> > g(0) = k^(1/2)
> > g(a) = g(-a)
> > g(k - 1/2) = k + 1/2
> >
> > What is g()?
> >
> > Thanks for reading.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Yimin
>
> The coordinates (X*, Y*) are rotated clockwise by
> pi/4 (counterclockwise by -pi/4) from (X, Y), so a
> point with coordinates (x*, y*) in the (X*, Y*)
> system has coordinates
> x = cos(-pi/4) x* - sin(-pi/4) y* = (x* +
> y*)/sqrt(2)
> y = sin(-pi/4) x* + cos(-pi/4) y* = (-x* +
> y*)/sqrt(2)
> in the (X, Y) system.
>
> Substitution into xy = k gives
> (x* + y*)/(-x* + y*) = 2k

CORRECTION:
(x* + y*)(-x* + y*) = 2k

>
> simplifying,
> y* = sqrt[(x*)^2 + 2k]
>
> where we are justified in choosing y* > 0, because we
> were given that x and k are > 0 (and thus y > 0), so
> y* = (x + y)/sqrt(2) > 0.