From: Artūras Šlajus on 3 Feb 2010 09:52 Hello there, I'm writing a game server for flash based game. Currently there is MySQL + activerecord + activesupport + eventmachine. At timed intervals (lets say 1 minute) actions should be done: * buildings construction status should be updated. * resource entries should be updated. * technologies should be updated. * unit construction status should be updated. * unit movement status should be updated. All those operations do heavy-duty actions with SQL and objects so they take a while. For example with 500 000 resource entries updating them all takes about 27 seconds. 500 000 resource entries are needed for 33 000 players. I imagine that other status updates will add up to this time considerably. While eventmachine allows you to spawn green ruby threads, it seems that mysql gem is blocking. So far I had these ideas: 1) run things in linear fashion, ensure that everything runs pretty speedy (under 1-2 seconds) because incoming requests would be blocked by eventmachine. Buy another server if it doesn't. 2) run things in concurrent fashion, ensure that everything fits into period (1 minute). Run updaters as separate ruby processes. Pretty complex to code. Perhaps there would be any other ideas that I've missed? Thank you. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
From: Jonathan Nielsen on 3 Feb 2010 11:24 2010/2/3 Artūras Šlajus <x11(a)arturaz.net>: > While eventmachine allows you to spawn green ruby threads, it seems that > mysql gem is blocking. There is an asynchronous mysql gem, but I haven't done much with it. Link: http://www.espace.com.eg/neverblock/blog/2008/08/28/neverblock-mysql-support/ -Jonathan Nielsen
From: Eleanor McHugh on 3 Feb 2010 11:39 On 3 Feb 2010, at 14:52, Artūras Šlajus wrote: > Hello there, > > I'm writing a game server for flash based game. Currently there is MySQL > + activerecord + activesupport + eventmachine. > > At timed intervals (lets say 1 minute) actions should be done: > > * buildings construction status should be updated. > * resource entries should be updated. > * technologies should be updated. > * unit construction status should be updated. > * unit movement status should be updated. > > All those operations do heavy-duty actions with SQL and objects so they > take a while. > > For example with 500 000 resource entries updating them all takes about > 27 seconds. > > 500 000 resource entries are needed for 33 000 players. > > I imagine that other status updates will add up to this time > considerably. > > While eventmachine allows you to spawn green ruby threads, it seems that > mysql gem is blocking. > > So far I had these ideas: > 1) run things in linear fashion, ensure that everything runs pretty > speedy (under 1-2 seconds) because incoming requests would be blocked by > eventmachine. Buy another server if it doesn't. > 2) run things in concurrent fashion, ensure that everything fits into > period (1 minute). Run updaters as separate ruby processes. Pretty > complex to code. > > Perhaps there would be any other ideas that I've missed? A few observations based on my own experiences of writing real-time systems. YMMV. To start with there are many architectural assumptions implicit in the scenario you've outlined that you should reconsider to see if they're justified, not least of which is that you're apparently trying to do all of this through a single server application. Even if you were doing this in C/C++ I'd view that as a huge disaster waiting to happen. The rule of thumb with any "real-time" system is to break it down into as many discrete parts as you can and to have these running as separate services so that individual bottlenecks can be identified and scaled out to separate hardware when load demands. Is it really necessary that all of these updates happen concurrently? And if not how would you prioritise the updates? Is it possible to limit the updates to just those players who are logged on and active? Or perhaps a slightly larger group of which they're a subset? Perhaps you can even partition the game world into zones where updates to an individual zone can be scheduled in isolation. Examine your query logs and figure out how much overhead you're paying for each type of query you run. It could be that for some updates you should abandon ActiveRecord and use embedded SQL where you can tailor the query to your specific requirements. You should also look at message queues for handling your updates. This will allow you to move the heavy data processing work into separate processes and make scaling much easier to get your head around. With a bit of thought you can probably turn what appears to be an atomic update process into a staged pipeline which more effectively uses the underlying computing resources at your disposal. Depending on how much control you have over your database configuration you could also look at sharding (the zone-splitting already mentioned is a simple example of this), data denormalisation, and decoupling the database behind a series of simple web services. Finally don't treat writes as immediate updates of the live data as that's a very difficult contract to fulfil. Instead consider each update a discrete 'turn'. Read the wikipedia article on Shannon-Nyquist and you'll see that with the right duty cycle you can make any digital system appear continuous :) Also, based on the architecture you've described I'm not sure EventMachine is a good approach to your problems. It's really designed for handling i/o traffic where latency is less of a consideration than the need to handle many concurrent requests in a mostly timely fashion. I hope there are some ideas in there that help. You might also find various useful bits of code in the presentations linked from my signature. Ellie Eleanor McHugh Games With Brains http://slides.games-with-brains.net ---- raise ArgumentError unless @reality.responds_to? :reason
From: Roger Pack on 3 Feb 2010 11:50 > While eventmachine allows you to spawn green ruby threads, it seems that > mysql gem is blocking. Yeah check out mysqlplus, and possibly http://github.com/tmm1/em-mysql -r -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
From: Iñaki Baz Castillo on 3 Feb 2010 11:59
El Miércoles, 3 de Febrero de 2010, Jonathan Nielsen escribió: > 2010/2/3 Artūras Šlajus <x11(a)arturaz.net>: > > While eventmachine allows you to spawn green ruby threads, it seems that > > mysql gem is blocking. > > There is an asynchronous mysql gem, but I haven't done much with it. > > Link: > http://www.espace.com.eg/neverblock/blog/2008/08/28/neverblock-mysql-suppo > rt/ I use mysqlplus instead of mysql gem. It's like a replacement, but it allows async operations (non-blocking) so a thread performing an async DB query doesn't block other threads. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc(a)aliax.net> |