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From: ralph on 17 Jul 2010 01:21 On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:01:54 -0400, "Kevin Provance" <k(a)p.c> wrote: > >"ralph" <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net> wrote in message >news:9ivv3658097eed8s3bdkf0vtpln037bv8f(a)4ax.com... >: >: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal >: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html > >I really enjoyed that. It just further my belief that I was born one or >two decades too late. The kind of lifestyle the Real Programmer leads is >very appealing. > >The bit about the guy who hacked the Voyager code to include the program to >photograph the Jupiter moon was exceptionally cool. I posted that mostly because of the title. The article is definitely tongue-in-cheek and seriously out-dated. (One has to be at least 40 to even have a glimmer of the systems/languages he is talking about.) What tickles me, (and yes I'm easily entertained), is that "Real Programmer" vs. "Quiche Eaters" debates still go on in earnst today. But "Real Programmers" are never tied to a single tool - they shine no matter what they are given. The greatest feat I ever saw by a programmer was a 12-year old boy I met through a local users group, who back in the same time frame as that article wrote a WYSIWYG Text Editor using Turtle Logo for the Atari 800. It was amazingly small, performed well, and had as many features as some of the available "Word Processors" for the Atari at the time. Man, was I envious, if not out-right jealous. Not because I desired the same skill with Turtle Logo, or that I wanted to write s/w for the Atari, but because I knew then and there - I'm might be more "Real" than some - but I'd never be a "Real Programmer"! <g> Wish I had saved his name. If he didn't get hit by a bus, I'm sure he was and is a major player in computing somewhere. -ralph
From: Kevin Provance on 17 Jul 2010 03:11 "ralph" <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net> wrote in message news:0lc246hlckpcbnkr74ce2b433qh3m10svr(a)4ax.com... : : I posted that mostly because of the title. : : The article is definitely tongue-in-cheek and seriously out-dated. : (One has to be at least 40 to even have a glimmer of the : systems/languages he is talking about.) What tickles me, (and yes I'm : easily entertained), is that "Real Programmer" vs. "Quiche Eaters" : debates still go on in earnst today. : : But "Real Programmers" are never tied to a single tool - they shine no : matter what they are given. : : The greatest feat I ever saw by a programmer was a 12-year old boy I : met through a local users group, who back in the same time frame as : that article wrote a WYSIWYG Text Editor using Turtle Logo for the : Atari 800. It was amazingly small, performed well, and had as many : features as some of the available "Word Processors" for the Atari at : the time. : : Man, was I envious, if not out-right jealous. Not because I desired : the same skill with Turtle Logo, or that I wanted to write s/w for the : Atari, but because I knew then and there - I'm might be more "Real" : than some - but I'd never be a "Real Programmer"! <g> : : Wish I had saved his name. If he didn't get hit by a bus, I'm sure he : was and is a major player in computing somewhere. : Well, regardless your intention, the article was wicked cool. Only a true geek would appreciate it. I like to this at the very least, I'm one of those. <g>
From: dpb on 17 Jul 2010 10:38 ralph wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:01:54 -0400, "Kevin Provance" <k(a)p.c> wrote: > >> "ralph" <nt_consulting64(a)yahoo.net> wrote in message >> news:9ivv3658097eed8s3bdkf0vtpln037bv8f(a)4ax.com... >> : >> : Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal >> : http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html >> >> I really enjoyed that. It just further my belief that I was born one or >> two decades too late. The kind of lifestyle the Real Programmer leads is >> very appealing. >> >> The bit about the guy who hacked the Voyager code to include the program to >> photograph the Jupiter moon was exceptionally cool. > > I posted that mostly because of the title. > > The article is definitely tongue-in-cheek and seriously out-dated. > (One has to be at least 40 to even have a glimmer of the > systems/languages he is talking about.) What tickles me, (and yes I'm > easily entertained), is that "Real Programmer" vs. "Quiche Eaters" > debates still go on in earnst today. > > But "Real Programmers" are never tied to a single tool - they shine no > matter what they are given. .... Well, being (as are several others who frequent here; I'm not sure just how old you are Ralph) of an age that I remember well when it was published and still have the original pages from the issue of Datamation in a file folder somewhere, I really don't think it all that outdated--the fact is that in many ways it is, imo, much like Dilbert in revealing a fair amount of fundamental truth via humor. There's a new generation of quiche eaters spawned with every new latest craze and while there is indeed something to be learned and gained, there's much that is true in the roots of coding skill and use of resources that seems lost to glitz and flash and ever increasing clocks and gigabytes of memory. --
From: Viken Cerpovna on 18 Jul 2010 00:55 "Mayayana" <mayayana(a)invalid.nospam> wrote in message news:i1pl6o$196$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > | > | That would be Pascal, my newest step child. <g> > | > | SomeVar := Some other var; > | > > I've been wondering about the Viken Cerpovna > anagram. Is that another stepchild? Your alter ego? Excuse me? Anagram for what? I realize it's not a common name, I'm part Russian and part Lebanese, but do you have to make fun of it? What is a Mayayannayanna? Are you one of those cowards who can't use his real name? Viken
From: Viken Cerpovna on 18 Jul 2010 01:29
> | Seems to me that any "Visual Basic" would be fair game to discuss here > | though. > | > > This has always been a VB group. VB is not the same > as MS Office automation using VBA. There are newsgroups > for those programs. So why argue about whether someone > has a "right" to post here? Why would someone *want* > to post here if most of the people here can't help them?! > (To say nothing of being considerate and not wasting other > peoples' time.) Sorry, the languages are the same. I've used both long enough to know. VB is Visual Basic. It does not refer to any particular incarnation or version. Really, I have not been here long enough to know who knows what here. Do you? You seem to think that if you do not know the answer then other people here do not know either. > > With VB, VBScript, MS Office VBA (and to some extent > VB.Net) there are a lot of similarities. But there are also > lots of differences. (I've used VB for over a decade, but > I'm not familiar with ":=".) And to say it's mostly a > difference of COM objects misses the point. Office automation > is mostly dealing with those COM objects! For people > who don't use MS Office it's all gobbledygook. What you're > saying is like assuming that questions about the IE DOM > or the Windows Installer object model belong in a VB > group, simply because VB can use those objects. Or VB.Net > for that matter. VB.Net code looks a lot like VB, but most > of it is using objects in the .Net framework, so it's > unreadable from a VB point of view. So if someone asks a question about VB and ADO we tell them to go somewhere else? Still have not answered the question. The group says comp.lang.basic.visual.misc, not comp.lang.basic.visual.vb6.misc. > So it's not a matter of who has a "right" to post. It's > just common sense to keep questions in the most > relevant group. The location of the relevant group was > posted by "Nobody" before you posted: Yes, but who decides what is relevant? You? > microsoft.public.excel.programming > > Also: > > microsoft.public.word.vba.general > microsoft.public.office.developer.vba > microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba > microsoft.public.office.developer.outlook.vba > microsoft.public.access.modulescoding > microsoft.public.powerpoint > alt.comp.microsoft.office Yes, could be useful but their existence has nothing to do with what this group is for. Thanks, Viken |