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From: kj [SBS MVP] on 20 May 2010 14:06 Daniel Jewel wrote: > Thank you so much KJ! > > Please bear with me on this issue as I have not had any previous > opportunity to set one up like this... > I searched MS and google but did not have any luck on a KB, nor > how-to, nor a step-by-step article > > Would you be so patient to perhaps detail some of this info for me > (I'm sorry if I'm asking for too much... but never really had the > chance to work on something like this) > > Dan Here's some suggested reading that will likely be of help to you. Afterwards feel free to post back with questions specific you your intended enviroment. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9353A4F6-A8A8-40BB-9FA7-3A95C9540112&displaylang=en > > "kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS(a)SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uUULhJE#KHA.1652(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Daniel Jewel wrote: >>> Definitely s start Lyj, >>> >>> I read a partial article on smallbizserver.net where they talk a >>> bout creating another site on AD and from there on... >>> Hope someone will have some working knowledge more in that direction >>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING! >>> Dan >> >> An AD site is a collection of subnets, in your case probably just >> one. Main office will already have the default site, so define a new >> site for 'branch office' with the IP subnet for those computers. >> This AD site/subnet is used by DClocator (and others like DFS) to >> locate the closet reources (like domain controllers). >> >> After promoting the new DC make sure it is in the branch office AD >> site. >>> >>> "lyj_e1" <lyje1(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:7F4F3003-51DB-4187-8624-6E9D22A3583D(a)microsoft.com... >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> We had a similar requirement and did the following: Setup the >>>> member server >>>> on the SBS network using DCPROMO. >>>> >>>> Created a site to site VPN connection between the two routers. Had >>>> to add a >>>> static route on the router to allow the ISA to pass through the >>>> VPN. This was >>>> the tricky part. >>>> >>>> Then transferred the member server to the branch office and setup >>>> as normal >>>> making sure it is on a different subnet (which you would need to do >>>> with the >>>> site to site VPN connection anyway) >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Lyj >>>> >>>> "Daniel Jewel" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello to all, >>>>> >>>>> Since we have started with SBS a few years ago, we never really >>>>> had the need, nor the opportunity >>>>> to set up a remote office with the functionality as follows. So, I >>>>> would be >>>>> very grateful if I can get detail the steps needed to accomplish >>>>> the following: >>>>> >>>>> Head Office has: >>>>> SBS 2003 Premium R2, ISA Installed, 2 NICs and about 25 client >>>>> PCs, Fixed IP >>>>> >>>>> Remote Office has: >>>>> Server 2003 64bit R2 1 NIC and 32 client PCs, Dynamic IP (Using >>>>> Dynamic DNS >>>>> Services) >>>>> >>>>> We need: >>>>> Make server at remote office a DC and remote office users able to >>>>> see and use shares at head office as well as outlook, companyweb >>>>> >>>>> How do we go about this? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Dan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> . >> >> -- >> /kj -- /kj
From: Daniel Jewel on 20 May 2010 15:25 Many thanks KJ! Downloaded the article and will go thru it... Dan "kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS(a)SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message news:u4RbvcE#KHA.4768(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Daniel Jewel wrote: >> Thank you so much KJ! >> >> Please bear with me on this issue as I have not had any previous >> opportunity to set one up like this... >> I searched MS and google but did not have any luck on a KB, nor >> how-to, nor a step-by-step article >> >> Would you be so patient to perhaps detail some of this info for me >> (I'm sorry if I'm asking for too much... but never really had the >> chance to work on something like this) >> >> Dan > > Here's some suggested reading that will likely be of help to you. > Afterwards feel free to post back with questions specific you your > intended enviroment. > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9353A4F6-A8A8-40BB-9FA7-3A95C9540112&displaylang=en > > >> >> "kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS(a)SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:uUULhJE#KHA.1652(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Daniel Jewel wrote: >>>> Definitely s start Lyj, >>>> >>>> I read a partial article on smallbizserver.net where they talk a >>>> bout creating another site on AD and from there on... >>>> Hope someone will have some working knowledge more in that direction >>>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING! >>>> Dan >>> >>> An AD site is a collection of subnets, in your case probably just >>> one. Main office will already have the default site, so define a new >>> site for 'branch office' with the IP subnet for those computers. >>> This AD site/subnet is used by DClocator (and others like DFS) to >>> locate the closet reources (like domain controllers). >>> >>> After promoting the new DC make sure it is in the branch office AD >>> site. >>>> >>>> "lyj_e1" <lyje1(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:7F4F3003-51DB-4187-8624-6E9D22A3583D(a)microsoft.com... >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> We had a similar requirement and did the following: Setup the >>>>> member server >>>>> on the SBS network using DCPROMO. >>>>> >>>>> Created a site to site VPN connection between the two routers. Had >>>>> to add a >>>>> static route on the router to allow the ISA to pass through the >>>>> VPN. This was >>>>> the tricky part. >>>>> >>>>> Then transferred the member server to the branch office and setup >>>>> as normal >>>>> making sure it is on a different subnet (which you would need to do >>>>> with the >>>>> site to site VPN connection anyway) >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Lyj >>>>> >>>>> "Daniel Jewel" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello to all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Since we have started with SBS a few years ago, we never really >>>>>> had the need, nor the opportunity >>>>>> to set up a remote office with the functionality as follows. So, I >>>>>> would be >>>>>> very grateful if I can get detail the steps needed to accomplish >>>>>> the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> Head Office has: >>>>>> SBS 2003 Premium R2, ISA Installed, 2 NICs and about 25 client >>>>>> PCs, Fixed IP >>>>>> >>>>>> Remote Office has: >>>>>> Server 2003 64bit R2 1 NIC and 32 client PCs, Dynamic IP (Using >>>>>> Dynamic DNS >>>>>> Services) >>>>>> >>>>>> We need: >>>>>> Make server at remote office a DC and remote office users able to >>>>>> see and use shares at head office as well as outlook, companyweb >>>>>> >>>>>> How do we go about this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> Dan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> . >>> >>> -- >>> /kj > > -- > /kj >
From: kj [SBS MVP] on 20 May 2010 16:08 You are welcome Daniel. While going through it remember that it is a generic Server 2003 branch office guide and some accommodations for SBS will be warranted. Daniel Jewel wrote: > Many thanks KJ! > > Downloaded the article and will go thru it... > Dan > > "kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS(a)SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message > news:u4RbvcE#KHA.4768(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Daniel Jewel wrote: >>> Thank you so much KJ! >>> >>> Please bear with me on this issue as I have not had any previous >>> opportunity to set one up like this... >>> I searched MS and google but did not have any luck on a KB, nor >>> how-to, nor a step-by-step article >>> >>> Would you be so patient to perhaps detail some of this info for me >>> (I'm sorry if I'm asking for too much... but never really had the >>> chance to work on something like this) >>> >>> Dan >> >> Here's some suggested reading that will likely be of help to you. >> Afterwards feel free to post back with questions specific you your >> intended enviroment. >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9353A4F6-A8A8-40BB-9FA7-3A95C9540112&displaylang=en >> >> >>> >>> "kj [SBS MVP]" <KevinJ.SBS(a)SPAMFREE.gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:uUULhJE#KHA.1652(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Daniel Jewel wrote: >>>>> Definitely s start Lyj, >>>>> >>>>> I read a partial article on smallbizserver.net where they talk a >>>>> bout creating another site on AD and from there on... >>>>> Hope someone will have some working knowledge more in that >>>>> direction THANK YOU FOR SHARING! >>>>> Dan >>>> >>>> An AD site is a collection of subnets, in your case probably just >>>> one. Main office will already have the default site, so define a >>>> new site for 'branch office' with the IP subnet for those >>>> computers. This AD site/subnet is used by DClocator (and others >>>> like DFS) to locate the closet reources (like domain controllers). >>>> >>>> After promoting the new DC make sure it is in the branch office AD >>>> site. >>>>> >>>>> "lyj_e1" <lyje1(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:7F4F3003-51DB-4187-8624-6E9D22A3583D(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> We had a similar requirement and did the following: Setup the >>>>>> member server >>>>>> on the SBS network using DCPROMO. >>>>>> >>>>>> Created a site to site VPN connection between the two routers. >>>>>> Had to add a >>>>>> static route on the router to allow the ISA to pass through the >>>>>> VPN. This was >>>>>> the tricky part. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then transferred the member server to the branch office and setup >>>>>> as normal >>>>>> making sure it is on a different subnet (which you would need to >>>>>> do with the >>>>>> site to site VPN connection anyway) >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lyj >>>>>> >>>>>> "Daniel Jewel" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello to all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since we have started with SBS a few years ago, we never really >>>>>>> had the need, nor the opportunity >>>>>>> to set up a remote office with the functionality as follows. >>>>>>> So, I would be >>>>>>> very grateful if I can get detail the steps needed to accomplish >>>>>>> the following: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Head Office has: >>>>>>> SBS 2003 Premium R2, ISA Installed, 2 NICs and about 25 client >>>>>>> PCs, Fixed IP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remote Office has: >>>>>>> Server 2003 64bit R2 1 NIC and 32 client PCs, Dynamic IP (Using >>>>>>> Dynamic DNS >>>>>>> Services) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We need: >>>>>>> Make server at remote office a DC and remote office users able >>>>>>> to see and use shares at head office as well as outlook, >>>>>>> companyweb How do we go about this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>>> /kj >> >> -- >> /kj -- /kj
From: Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP] on 20 May 2010 19:43 Hi Daniel: I read through the thread and come back here to propose a different solution. You will have to open your mind a little to see the value proposition it offers, and if your internet connections are fast/big enough it may not matter. But with the usual sort of internet connections we see, this sort of thing is a real pain as the speeds are limited to the slowest, which is some fraction of the slowest upload speed as some of the connection must be left over for normal use in addition to the VPN. So I suggest that you consider using that second box in the main office as a Terminal Server (or Remote Desktop Server as it is called now). This has several advantages. No data ever leaves the home office. No loading of databases over the internet. No sloooowwwww opening of Word or Excel documents over a narrow connection. Only screen refreshes and keystrokes pass over the internet. OTOH, if you have fast, say FIOS or T3 connections, you might find it usable. I still don't like opening most database apps over an internet connection as Access and most accounting data is very susceptible to corruption if the connections is lost, and with Access in particular you open the entire table every time you do a query. If CAD or the like is in the mix, those files get very large as well, but you would most likely want to store them locally as Terminal Services is not really a great place for CAD or Video Editing and the like. - Larry Please post the resolution to your issue so others may benefit - Get Your SBS Health Check at www.sbsbpa.com > Hello to all, > > Since we have started with SBS a few years ago, we never really had > the > need, nor the opportunity > to set up a remote office with the functionality as follows. So, I > would be > very grateful if I can get detail the steps needed to accomplish the > following: > Head Office has: > SBS 2003 Premium R2, ISA Installed, 2 NICs and about 25 client PCs, > Fixed IP > Remote Office has: > Server 2003 64bit R2 1 NIC and 32 client PCs, Dynamic IP (Using > Dynamic DNS > Services) > We need: > Make server at remote office a DC and remote office users able to see > and > use shares at head office as well as outlook, companyweb > How do we go about this? > > Thanks! > Dan
From: Leythos on 20 May 2010 21:03
In article <4e683515fd488ccc66be40ecdf1(a)news.microsoft.com>, lstruckmeyer(a)mis-wizards.com says... > So I suggest that you consider using that second box in the main office as > a Terminal Server (or Remote Desktop Server as it is called now). This has > several advantages. No data ever leaves the home office. No loading of > databases over the internet. No sloooowwwww opening of Word or Excel documents > over a narrow connection. Only screen refreshes and keystrokes pass over > the internet. > I completely agree and this is the first solution path for any remote office - the payback comes from lower maintenance time, decrease in lost productivity, that you can use Thin-Clints instead of full computers at the remote office locations, that they can work from anywhere with an internet connection, oh, did I mention lower maintenance costs.... -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) |