SCI.MATH POLL - uncountable infinity
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From: dannas on 3 Jun 2010 10:50 "George Greene" <greeneg(a)email.unc.edu> wrote in message news:c969f9f0-71ce-4b79-8669-37c610773bd6(a)r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... On Jun 3, 12:34 am, "dannas" <inva...(a)invalid.com> wrote: > how can I point to a single box, out of an infinity of boxes in an > imaginary > problem ? >With its NUMBER, THAT's how. >Every box has a natural number on it, as a label. >No two boxes have the same number and every natural number is on some >box. >Actually, you could just dispense with the numbers altogether simply >by setting >up the boxes in 1 straight line and COUNTING. those are just assumptions that you have made, which change the problem. the OP did NOT say natural numbers were written on them, and he did NOT say that the number inside the box was Unique.
From: dannas on 3 Jun 2010 10:53 "|-|ercules" <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:86p0dtFdhnU1(a)mid.individual.net... > "George Greene" <greeneg(a)email.unc.edu> wrote ... >> On Jun 3, 12:34 am, "dannas" <inva...(a)invalid.com> wrote: >>> how can I point to a single box, out of an infinity of boxes in an >>> imaginary >>> problem ? >> >> With its NUMBER, THAT's how. >> Every box has a natural number on it, as a label. >> No two boxes have the same number and every natural number is on some >> box. >> Actually, you could just dispense with the numbers altogether simply >> by setting >> up the boxes in 1 straight line and COUNTING. > > > Thanks George. > Care to answer: > > 1/ is there a box that contains the numbers of all the boxes that don't > contain their own number? > > and > > 2/ Can the result of 1/ be used to prove the existence of higher > infinities? > > Everyone here is chatting about how smart they are and how my theories are > all junk, but no one is answering any of my questions. > > I'll bet $100 someone replies to the last paragraph while ignoring the 2 > questions! > > Herc sure no problem, send the $100 to knowseverything(a)paypal.com first. also you did not specify the number of frige magnets inside each box. Please try to be more clear next time.
From: |-|ercules on 3 Jun 2010 15:58 "dannas" <invalid(a)invalid.com> wrote ... > > "George Greene" <greeneg(a)email.unc.edu> wrote in message > news:c969f9f0-71ce-4b79-8669-37c610773bd6(a)r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 3, 12:34 am, "dannas" <inva...(a)invalid.com> wrote: >> how can I point to a single box, out of an infinity of boxes in an >> imaginary >> problem ? > >>With its NUMBER, THAT's how. >>Every box has a natural number on it, as a label. >>No two boxes have the same number and every natural number is on some >>box. >>Actually, you could just dispense with the numbers altogether simply >>by setting >>up the boxes in 1 straight line and COUNTING. > > > those are just assumptions that you have made, which change the problem. > > > the OP did NOT say natural numbers were written on them, > > and he did NOT say that the number inside the box was Unique. By working out the case where the poll question does not hold, does that imply you know of the case where it does? Herc
From: dannas on 3 Jun 2010 16:03 "|-|ercules" <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:86qfqlF807U1(a)mid.individual.net... > "dannas" <invalid(a)invalid.com> wrote ... >> >> "George Greene" <greeneg(a)email.unc.edu> wrote in message >> news:c969f9f0-71ce-4b79-8669-37c610773bd6(a)r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> On Jun 3, 12:34 am, "dannas" <inva...(a)invalid.com> wrote: >>> how can I point to a single box, out of an infinity of boxes in an >>> imaginary >>> problem ? >> >>>With its NUMBER, THAT's how. >>>Every box has a natural number on it, as a label. >>>No two boxes have the same number and every natural number is on some >>>box. >>>Actually, you could just dispense with the numbers altogether simply >>>by setting >>>up the boxes in 1 straight line and COUNTING. >> >> >> those are just assumptions that you have made, which change the problem. >> >> >> the OP did NOT say natural numbers were written on them, >> >> and he did NOT say that the number inside the box was Unique. > > > By working out the case where the poll question does not hold, does that > imply you know of the case where it does? > > Herc of course; Wiki Proof by contradiction; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_contradiction Wiki Proof by contrapositive; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_contrapositive Wiki Proof by constipation; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constipation
From: |-|ercules on 3 Jun 2010 16:08
"dannas" <invalid(a)invalid.com> wrote > > "|-|ercules" <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:86qfqlF807U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> "dannas" <invalid(a)invalid.com> wrote ... >>> >>> "George Greene" <greeneg(a)email.unc.edu> wrote in message >>> news:c969f9f0-71ce-4b79-8669-37c610773bd6(a)r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jun 3, 12:34 am, "dannas" <inva...(a)invalid.com> wrote: >>>> how can I point to a single box, out of an infinity of boxes in an >>>> imaginary >>>> problem ? >>> >>>>With its NUMBER, THAT's how. >>>>Every box has a natural number on it, as a label. >>>>No two boxes have the same number and every natural number is on some >>>>box. >>>>Actually, you could just dispense with the numbers altogether simply >>>>by setting >>>>up the boxes in 1 straight line and COUNTING. >>> >>> >>> those are just assumptions that you have made, which change the problem. >>> >>> >>> the OP did NOT say natural numbers were written on them, >>> >>> and he did NOT say that the number inside the box was Unique. >> >> >> By working out the case where the poll question does not hold, does that >> imply you know of the case where it does? >> >> Herc > > of course; > > Wiki Proof by contradiction; > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_contradiction > > > Wiki Proof by contrapositive; > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_contrapositive > > Wiki Proof by constipation; > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constipation You really are full of sh1t then! Herc |