From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:46:55 -0700 (PDT)) it happened mpm
<mpmillard(a)aol.com> wrote in
<59e303d3-2683-4640-aa62-89e5a89b257f(a)u31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>:

>On Apr 13, 4:11�pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:49:29 -0700 (PDT)) it happened mpm
>> <mpmill...(a)aol.com> wrote in
>> <34b89a39-d2d5-455f-bf25-356e6cfd9...(a)g30g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>> >Someone else mentioned an EEPROM / Serial Comm port solution.
>> >This approach would also be cheap and easy, and quick to code/program.
>> >I'm just wondering if there's an easy (easier) way to transport
>> >(collect) the serial stream from equipment out in the field.
>> >Obviously a laptop, or netbook..., but anything else? �Seems like that
>> >would have been beat to death by now. (?)
>>
>> >-mpm
>>
>> It is called ethernet - internet.
>> Implement an ethernet port.
>> And then you do not have to go there.
>
>I'm picture-ing a backhoe out in the mud.


Had to look that up:
'? n. a mechanical excavator that draws toward itself a bucket attached to a hinged boom.'
mm
WiFi.
You still need the ethernet port.
Can be done for under 100$ if you are clever:
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/wap54g/index.html#wapserver
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/wap54g/io.html
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/io_pic/index.html
So here you have it all, for less then 100$, SDcard, Ethernet, WiFi,
a remote way via telnet to control the stuff, analog and digital I/O, PWM.
Remote download from data also possible.
Been there, done that.
Beat my price ;-)




>Are you suggesting an Ethernet connection on the data acquisition
>device mounted in the backhoe?
>To me, that seems like a worse idea than the serial port.
>
>It also just occured to me that I don't know how to spell "picture-
>ing" :)

Dictionary, google 'online dictionary', that is hoe I found 'backhoe'.


>-mpm
>
From: JosephKK on
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 11:24:15 +0100, "MK" <mk(a)nospam.please> wrote:

>
>"Richard Rasker" <spamtrap(a)linetec.nl> wrote in message
>news:4bc43c4c$0$729$7ade8c0d(a)textreader.nntp.internl.net...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm working on a stand-alone, battery-powered temperature monitoring
>> device
>> which collects a few megabytes of data over the course of a few weeks. The
>> goal is to monitor the temperature of bearings and a clutch box of a heavy
>> machine under varying loads, and evaluate these measurements afterwards.
>> Most of this is a trival design matter, and I got almost everything
>> running
>> just fine within a few days.
>> The only problem I'm still facing is data storage: I'd like to use an SD
>> card (or Micro SD) to store this data, so that the user can transfer the
>> data to a PC with minimal hassle.
>>
>> My questions:
>> - It would appear that I need a license from the SD Card Association if I
>> want to build (and sell) anything containing an SD card host circuit (see
>> http://www.sdcard.org/developers/join/licensing/ "Host and Ancillary
>> Products"). Now this would more than triple my development cost, in fact
>> making it rather uneconomical to use SD cards -- this temperature monitor
>> isn't meant to be built in any significant numbers (three, to be exact).
>> Does anyone know more about these licensing requirements?
>> - Does anyone have any information on how to write data to SD cards using
>> a
>> PIC controller?
>>
>> Any suggestions for a different data storage and retrieval mechanism are
>> welcome too, of course, but I can't think of anything as easy to use as an
>> SD card. Also, I'd rather not use a USB device, because the whole shazzam
>> now runs off a 3V power source, whereas USB requires 5 volts.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, best regards,
>>
>> Richard Rasker
>> --
>> http://www.linetec.nl
>
>Use a soldered in serial access Flash (Farnell have 1535453 16Mbytes for £9)
>and dump the data to the PC via a serial port. Cheap and easy. The serial
>port dump will be a bit slow (about half an hour for 16Mbytes @ 115.2kb) but
>that should be OK for the use you describe.
>
>
>Michael Kellett
>

You might look at the design of the PICkit 2 which has a usb interface and
can store plenty of data in serial flash.
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