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From: Lil' Abner on 11 Jul 2010 04:29 I am working on an eMachine T5062 which originally had 32 bit Vista installed on it. The owner wants XP and provided a new XP Pro CD to install it with. I checked on the eMachine (Gateway) site and found that they had the XP drivers for video and audio listed so I went ahead and did the install. I had to use those downloaded drivers which worked fine for the audio & video. Also not installed were the SB Bus Controller, LAN and modem devices. I installed a temporary wireless adapter to access the internet and then the Hardware Wizard located the drivers for the LAN and modem. That leaves only the SM Bus Controller which I have spent half the night trying to find a driver for. The processor is an AMD Athlon 3800+. The SM Bus Controller is showing up under Other Devices with a yellow question mark. I spent close to a half hour in chat with a gateway/eMachine tech and he couldn't come up with a fix, but agreed that that model supports XP since they provided audio and video drivers for it. Supposedly an elevated support person will be calling me Monday but I got the feeling from the way he talked it's going to be a fee based call. Does anyone have any ideas on this? Incidentally, everything seems to be working just fine *without* the controller. I'm not even sure what it is supposed to do! Google hasn't been my friend. I've downloaded about 5 different files that were supposed to fix it, but none of them would even install. -- --- Everybody has a right to my opinion. ---
From: Paul on 11 Jul 2010 05:05 Lil' Abner wrote: > I am working on an eMachine T5062 which originally had 32 bit Vista > installed on it. The owner wants XP and provided a new XP Pro CD to install > it with. I checked on the eMachine (Gateway) site and found that they had > the XP drivers for video and audio listed so I went ahead and did the > install. I had to use those downloaded drivers which worked fine for the > audio & video. Also not installed were the SB Bus Controller, LAN and modem > devices. I installed a temporary wireless adapter to access the internet > and then the Hardware Wizard located the drivers for the LAN and modem. > That leaves only the SM Bus Controller which I have spent half the night > trying to find a driver for. The processor is an AMD Athlon 3800+. The SM > Bus Controller is showing up under Other Devices with a yellow question > mark. I spent close to a half hour in chat with a gateway/eMachine tech and > he couldn't come up with a fix, but agreed that that model supports XP > since they provided audio and video drivers for it. Supposedly an elevated > support person will be calling me Monday but I got the feeling from the way > he talked it's going to be a fee based call. > Does anyone have any ideas on this? > Incidentally, everything seems to be working just fine *without* the > controller. I'm not even sure what it is supposed to do! > Google hasn't been my friend. I've downloaded about 5 different files that > were supposed to fix it, but none of them would even install. > You need chipset drivers, for an Nvidia 6150SE. That's the info I got here. There are tools like Everest and Belarc Advisor, that might tell you things like that, but I don't really like any of the tools, in terms of there thoroughness. In this case, I can at least get some info on the chipset, but I don't know exactly what other peripheral chips might be present. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883114037 SMBus is a slow serial bus, that originates on the Southbridge. It connects to the DIMMs, and the DIMM timing tables are read out using that bus, by the BIOS. Perhaps CPUZ wouldn't run properly with that driver missing ? Or maybe Speedfan would have problems ? The SMBus can also be used to host temperature sensors, but on modern machines, much of that will have moved to LPC bus. At one time, there was even an SMBus header on the motherboard, so you could connect "toys" to the SMBus. The Asus iPanel might have been an example of that. Now, the trick will be finding a driver. I happened to track down one similar to this recently, so this wasn't too hard to find. ******* http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index5.aspx?lang=en-us Legacy nForce 4 Series nForce 430 / GeForce 6150SE Windows XP English (US) nForce Driver 15.26, 2009.03.16, 162MB Windows XP 32-bit Driver Versions: * Ethernet Driver (v67.89) WHQL * Network Management Tools (v67.96) "Sedona" * SATAIDE Driver (v10.3.0.46) WHQL * SATARAID Driver (v10.3.0.46) WHQL * RAIDTOOL Application (v10.3.0.46) * SMU Driver (v1.61) WHQL * SMBus Driver (v4.69) WHQL <--------- * Away Mode Driver (v6.0.6000.107) WHQL * Installer (v6.69) As far as I know, the installer will offer tick boxes, and you'd just tick the SMBus one and not bother installing the rest of it. If the motherboard design uses the built in Ethernet, then the Ethernet MAC layer will be in the Southbridge, and a separate PHY chip outside completes the Ethernet implementation. You'd tick the box next to the Ethernet Driver (v67.89) WHQL entry, if you needed that one. If the motherboard designer uses a completely separate Ethernet chip (like a RealTek), then you'd be off to a separate web site to get a driver. You said you already got the Ethernet running, so probably nothing to worry about there. Some of the other driver choices, would be a function of the disk operating mode. As for the "SMU" one, not a clue :-) I'd have to look that one up. HTH, Paul
From: 123Jim on 11 Jul 2010 05:28 "Lil' Abner" <blvstk(a)dogpatch.com> wrote in message news:Xns9DB22375CB872butter(a)wefb973cbe498... >I am working on an eMachine T5062 which originally had 32 bit Vista > installed on it. The owner wants XP and provided a new XP Pro CD to > install > it with. I checked on the eMachine (Gateway) site and found that they had > the XP drivers for video and audio listed so I went ahead and did the > install. I had to use those downloaded drivers which worked fine for the > audio & video. Also not installed were the SB Bus Controller, LAN and > modem > devices. I installed a temporary wireless adapter to access the internet > and then the Hardware Wizard located the drivers for the LAN and modem. > That leaves only the SM Bus Controller which I have spent half the night > trying to find a driver for. The processor is an AMD Athlon 3800+. The SM > Bus Controller is showing up under Other Devices with a yellow question > mark. I spent close to a half hour in chat with a gateway/eMachine tech > and > he couldn't come up with a fix, but agreed that that model supports XP > since they provided audio and video drivers for it. Supposedly an elevated > support person will be calling me Monday but I got the feeling from the > way > he talked it's going to be a fee based call. > Does anyone have any ideas on this? > Incidentally, everything seems to be working just fine *without* the > controller. I'm not even sure what it is supposed to do! > Google hasn't been my friend. I've downloaded about 5 different files that > were supposed to fix it, but none of them would even install. > > -- > --- Everybody has a right to my opinion. --- You can try this: http://www.drivereasy.com/ I find it very useful
From: Lil' Abner on 11 Jul 2010 08:28 I finally found the right one at http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_nf4_winxp32_8.26_11.09.html I picked that up from a link in a geek squad forum from another person with a similar problem. Thanks for your input! Paul <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in news:i1c1ho$khu$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > Lil' Abner wrote: >> I am working on an eMachine T5062 which originally had 32 bit Vista >> installed on it. The owner wants XP and provided a new XP Pro CD to >> install it with. I checked on the eMachine (Gateway) site and found >> that they had the XP drivers for video and audio listed so I went >> ahead and did the install. I had to use those downloaded drivers >> which worked fine for the audio & video. Also not installed were the >> SB Bus Controller, LAN and modem devices. I installed a temporary >> wireless adapter to access the internet and then the Hardware Wizard >> located the drivers for the LAN and modem. That leaves only the SM >> Bus Controller which I have spent half the night trying to find a >> driver for. The processor is an AMD Athlon 3800+. The SM Bus >> Controller is showing up under Other Devices with a yellow question >> mark. I spent close to a half hour in chat with a gateway/eMachine >> tech and he couldn't come up with a fix, but agreed that that model >> supports XP since they provided audio and video drivers for it. >> Supposedly an elevated support person will be calling me Monday but I >> got the feeling from the way he talked it's going to be a fee based >> call. Does anyone have any ideas on this? >> Incidentally, everything seems to be working just fine *without* the >> controller. I'm not even sure what it is supposed to do! >> Google hasn't been my friend. I've downloaded about 5 different files >> that were supposed to fix it, but none of them would even install. >> > > You need chipset drivers, for an Nvidia 6150SE. That's the info I got > here. There are tools like Everest and Belarc Advisor, that might tell > you things like that, but I don't really like any of the tools, in > terms of there thoroughness. In this case, I can at least get some > info on the chipset, but I don't know exactly what other peripheral > chips might be present. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883114037 > > SMBus is a slow serial bus, that originates on the Southbridge. It > connects to the DIMMs, and the DIMM timing tables are read out using > that bus, by the BIOS. Perhaps CPUZ wouldn't run properly with that > driver missing ? Or maybe Speedfan would have problems ? > > The SMBus can also be used to host temperature sensors, but on modern > machines, much of that will have moved to LPC bus. At one time, there > was even an SMBus header on the motherboard, so you could connect > "toys" to the SMBus. The Asus iPanel might have been an example of > that. > > Now, the trick will be finding a driver. I happened to track down one > similar to this recently, so this wasn't too hard to find. > > ******* > > http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index5.aspx?lang=en-us > > Legacy > nForce 4 Series > nForce 430 / GeForce 6150SE > Windows XP > English (US) > > nForce Driver 15.26, 2009.03.16, 162MB > > Windows XP 32-bit Driver Versions: > > * Ethernet Driver (v67.89) WHQL > * Network Management Tools (v67.96) "Sedona" > * SATAIDE Driver (v10.3.0.46) WHQL > * SATARAID Driver (v10.3.0.46) WHQL > * RAIDTOOL Application (v10.3.0.46) > * SMU Driver (v1.61) WHQL > * SMBus Driver (v4.69) WHQL <--------- > * Away Mode Driver (v6.0.6000.107) WHQL > * Installer (v6.69) > > As far as I know, the installer will offer tick boxes, and > you'd just tick the SMBus one and not bother installing > the rest of it. If the motherboard design uses the > built in Ethernet, then the Ethernet MAC layer will be > in the Southbridge, and a separate PHY chip outside completes > the Ethernet implementation. You'd tick the box next to the > Ethernet Driver (v67.89) WHQL entry, if you needed that one. > If the motherboard designer uses a completely separate Ethernet > chip (like a RealTek), then you'd be off to a separate > web site to get a driver. You said you already got the Ethernet > running, so probably nothing to worry about there. Some of the > other driver choices, would be a function of the disk operating > mode. As for the "SMU" one, not a clue :-) I'd have to look that > one up. > > HTH, > Paul > -- --- Everybody has a right to my opinion. ---
From: Lil' Abner on 11 Jul 2010 08:34
"123Jim" <jnkjnjnini(a)uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> wrote in news:i1c2r8$tu3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > > "Lil' Abner" <blvstk(a)dogpatch.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9DB22375CB872butter(a)wefb973cbe498... >>I am working on an eMachine T5062 which originally had 32 bit Vista >> installed on it. The owner wants XP and provided a new XP Pro CD to >> install >> it with. I checked on the eMachine (Gateway) site and found that they >> had the XP drivers for video and audio listed so I went ahead and did >> the install. I had to use those downloaded drivers which worked fine >> for the audio & video. Also not installed were the SB Bus Controller, >> LAN and modem >> devices. I installed a temporary wireless adapter to access the >> internet and then the Hardware Wizard located the drivers for the LAN >> and modem. That leaves only the SM Bus Controller which I have spent >> half the night trying to find a driver for. The processor is an AMD >> Athlon 3800+. The SM Bus Controller is showing up under Other Devices >> with a yellow question mark. I spent close to a half hour in chat >> with a gateway/eMachine tech and >> he couldn't come up with a fix, but agreed that that model supports >> XP since they provided audio and video drivers for it. Supposedly an >> elevated support person will be calling me Monday but I got the >> feeling from the way >> he talked it's going to be a fee based call. >> Does anyone have any ideas on this? >> Incidentally, everything seems to be working just fine *without* the >> controller. I'm not even sure what it is supposed to do! >> Google hasn't been my friend. I've downloaded about 5 different files >> that were supposed to fix it, but none of them would even install. >> >> -- >> --- Everybody has a right to my opinion. --- > > > You can try this: > http://www.drivereasy.com/ > I find it very useful I'll bookmark that for further use. There's so many of those driver detectives and similar sites that try to get into your pocketbook. It looks like that one might be legit. Thanks for pointing it out. -- --- Everybody has a right to my opinion. --- |