SR/GR use absolute time to synchronize the GPS clocks with the ground clock.
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From: Sam Wormley on 22 Apr 2010 16:36 On 4/22/10 2:53 PM, kenseto wrote: > On Apr 22, 1:51 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> There is a massive black hole in the center of our galaxy, Ken. >> Measurements of the gas and the orbital velocities of the nearby >> stars peg its mass at at least three million solar masses and it >> boundary is very much smaller than the orbit of Mercury, meaning >> that all that mass is within its Schwarzschild radius. Sag A* >> is a black hole alright, and a big one. > > It is more appropriate to interpreted that as a high concentration of > dark matter (S-Particles) in the center of our galaxy. > > Ken Seto > >> >> If you were falling in, you would measure the rest of the universe >> speeding up and all those clocks would be going faster and faster >> and faster!- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > Um... I don't thinks your "S-Particle" have any evidence of existence except, perhaps in the dark recesses of your head.
From: kenseto on 22 Apr 2010 16:44 On Apr 22, 4:36 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 4/22/10 2:53 PM, kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 22, 1:51 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> There is a massive black hole in the center of our galaxy, Ken.. > >> Measurements of the gas and the orbital velocities of the nearby > >> stars peg its mass at at least three million solar masses and it > >> boundary is very much smaller than the orbit of Mercury, meaning > >> that all that mass is within its Schwarzschild radius. Sag A* > >> is a black hole alright, and a big one. > > > It is more appropriate to interpreted that as a high concentration of > > dark matter (S-Particles) in the center of our galaxy. > > > Ken Seto > > >> If you were falling in, you would measure the rest of the universe > >> speeding up and all those clocks would be going faster and faster > >> and faster!- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > Um... I don't thinks your "S-Particle" have any evidence of existence > except, perhaps in the dark recesses of your head. Why not? Free S-Particles are the dark matter predicted by the astronomers. - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: kenseto on 22 Apr 2010 16:47 On Apr 22, 3:55 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 4/22/10 8:19 AM, kenseto wrote: > > > > > Hey idiot....the ground clock doesn't have to set 52 us fast. They off > > set the GPS second to have N+4.15 periods of Cs 133 radiation before > > launch. This redefinition of the GPS second makes the GPS clock > > continuously synchronizes with the ground clock. > > Hey Ken--the received second from GPS satellite clocks have the same > duration and seconds from ground clocks. In fact GPS is an excellent > infrastructure to disseminate accurate time world-wide. Hey idiot...that's because the GPS second have N+4.15 periods of Cs 133 radiation vs the ground clock second has N periods of Cs 133 radiation. Ken Seto
From: kenseto on 22 Apr 2010 16:57 On Apr 22, 3:56 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 22, 2:41 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > All the book written so far gave the wrong interpretation for the > > properties of an absolute frame. > > Ken, suppose I pointed to a zebra and called it a penguin. Then > suppose I said that it is a penguin because it exhibits all the > properties of a penguin: stripes, four legs, hooves, and a tail. You > would laugh at me. Suppose you then pulled out a book and showed me a > picture of what we were looking at, and right next to it is the word > "zebra", and then you did the same thing with a picture and a label of > a penguin, so that I could see the difference. Suppose I then said > that all the books written so far gave the wrong interpretation of the > properties of penguins. You would not only laugh at me, but you would > know that I had lost my mind. ROTFLOL....Failing to make a valid arguement so you trot out your ridiculus animal analogy. You can deny all you want....All the properties claimed by every inertial observer are preferred properties of an absolute frame. Ken Seto > > Ken, do you really not realize what a fool you have made of yourself? > > PD
From: kenseto on 22 Apr 2010 17:03
On Apr 22, 3:57 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 22, 2:46 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 22, 10:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 22, 8:32 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 19, 12:24 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 19, 8:27 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 18, 2:18 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Apr 18, 11:11 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 18, 1:14 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 10:05 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 16, 5:29 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do I need to rebut what SR says? > > > > > > > > > > > > You keep saying there is an absolute frame. SR states there is no > > > > > > > > > > > absolute frame. If you're going to stick to your claim, you're going to > > > > > > > > > > > have to rebut SR. > > > > > > > > > > > Sigh....SR doesn't say that. SR says that it doen't need the absolute > > > > > > > > > > frame after it adopted the laws of physics of the absolute frame. > > > > > > > > > > Stop making things up, Ken. SR says no such thing. > > > > > > > > > Do you deny that the laws of physics in any inerial frame are the same > > > > > > > > as the laws of phyiscs in an absolute frame? > > > > > > > > Yes, I deny that. The laws of physics in the absolute frame are > > > > > > > DIFFERENT than they are in inertial reference frames. That's what > > > > > > > distinguishes the absolute rest frame. That's what it means. > > > > > > > Then why can't you describe the differences in the laws of physics > > > > > > between an inertial frame and an absolute frame? > > > > > > I have already, Ken, in this thread. I characterized how, in inertial > > > > > reference frames, the Newtonian laws of mechanics and the laws of > > > > > electrodynamics hold. I also described how the laws of physics would > > > > > be different in an absolute reference frame. The properties that YOU > > > > > think are ascribed to an absolute reference frame are incorrect. Those > > > > > are not the properties of an absolute reference frame. > > > > > No....every inertial frame adopts the special properties of the > > > > absolute frame > > > > No, Ken, what you say are the properties of the absolute frame are NOT > > > the properties of the absolute frame, as that word is used in physics.. > > > Sorry, you're just mistaken. > > > No it is you who is mistaken. In the absolute frame the speed of light > > is isotropicc; a clock in the absolute frame is the fastest running > > clock in the universe and a meter stick in the absolute frame is the > > longest meter stick in th euniverse. Thes exclusive preferred > > properties are what make the absolute frame unique. > > No sir. The term "absolute reference frame" is already taken in > physics, and it means something completely different than what you > have made up in your own head. No sir, the preferred properties of an absolute frame are exactly as I described above. Current physics cannot give the absolute frame a different meaning then what its preferred properties describe. Ken Seto |