SR is an incomplete aether theory.
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From: artful on 7 Jul 2010 21:45 On Jul 8, 10:58 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 7, 8:41 pm, artful <artful...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Effectively, the 'aether' of GR is simply a label for spacetime and > > its properties. Spacetime isn't just a property-less dimensionless > > void, but rather is something that has particular spatial and temporal > > dimensions and a finite maximum 'speed' at which information can be > > propagated through it etc etc. > > Aether = Dark matter. BAHAHAHA [snip lack of evidence for ridiculous claim] Nothing left
From: mpc755 on 7 Jul 2010 21:58 On Jul 7, 9:45 pm, artful <artful...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 8, 10:58 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 7, 8:41 pm, artful <artful...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Effectively, the 'aether' of GR is simply a label for spacetime and > > > its properties. Spacetime isn't just a property-less dimensionless > > > void, but rather is something that has particular spatial and temporal > > > dimensions and a finite maximum 'speed' at which information can be > > > propagated through it etc etc. > > > Aether = Dark matter. > > BAHAHAHA > > [snip lack of evidence for ridiculous claim] > > Nothing left A vacuum consists of dark matter. A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. The particle enters and exits a single slit. The associated wave enters and exits multiple slits. The wave exits the slits and creates interference. The interference alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated wave and there is no interference.
From: kenseto on 8 Jul 2010 07:56 On Jul 7, 11:17 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/7/10 8:41 AM, kenseto wrote: > > > SR is an incomplete aether theory. > > There has never been an observation that contracts a prediction > of special relativity. It remains a very fruitful theory and > you should take the time to learn it, Seto. Hint: Special relativity > does not posulate or use the concept of aether! wrong....every SR observer chooses the aether frame to do physics. Let uses the aether frame to do physics. That's why SR and LET have the same math. Ken Seto > > What is the experimental basis of special relativity? > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html > > How do you add velocities in special relativity? > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/velocity.html > > Can special relativity handle acceleration? > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/acceleration.html
From: kenseto on 8 Jul 2010 07:59 On Jul 7, 11:18 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/7/10 8:41 AM, kenseto wrote: > > > SR is an incomplete aether theory. > > There has never been an observation that contracts a prediction > of special relativity. It remains a very fruitful theory and > you should take the time to learn it, Seto. Hint: Special relativity > does not postulate or use the concept of aether! > > What is the experimental basis of special relativity? > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html So?? Let also have the same experimental basis. The reason is that they both use the aether frame to derive the math. Ken seto > > How do you add velocities in special relativity? > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/velocity.html > > Can special relativity handle acceleration? > http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/acceleration.html
From: kenseto on 8 Jul 2010 08:00
On Jul 7, 11:43 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > On Jul 7, 9:41 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > SR is an incomplete aether theory. > > Here's why: > > 1. The principle of relativity (PoR) says that all inertial frames > > including the unique absolute rest frame of the aether are > > equaivalent. > > > 2. This allows every SR observer to choose any frame to do physics and > > the rest frame of the aether is choosed because it is the simplest > > frame to do physics. > > > 3. Choosing the aether frame to do physics allows every SR observer to > > claim the exclusive properties of the aether frame which are: All the > > clocks moving wrt to an SR observer are running slow and all the ruler > > moving wrt him are contracted. > > > 4. However, choosing the aether frame to do physics is the reason why > > SR is incomplete. In real life all objects (including every SR > > observer)in the universe are in a state of absolute motion and the > > rate of a clock is dependent on the state of absolute motion of the > > clock. Therefore an SR observer cannot claim that all the clocks > > moving wrt him are running slow and all the ruler moving wrt him are > > contracted. In order to make SR complete an SR observer must include > > the possibility that an observed clock can run at a faster rate than > > his clock. > > > 5. IRT is a new theory of relativity. An IRT observer includes the > > possibilities that a clock moving wrt him can run fast by a factor of > > gamma or run slow by a factor of 1/gamma. Also an IRT observer posits > > that the light-path length of a meter stick moving wrt to him can be > > shorter by a factor of 1/gamma or longer by a factor of gamma. The > > standard for the light path length of the IRT observer's meter stick > > is assumed to be its physical length. With these interpretation of > > time and length all the problems and paradoxes of SR are resolved. > > > 6. A complete description of IRT is available in the following link:http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf > > > Ken Seto > > SR is not an aether theory. It got rid of the aether, pinhead. ROTFLOL..you are an idiot runt of the SRians. |