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From: kenseto on 20 Jun 2010 10:01 SR is not wrong but it is incomplete. Here's why: 1. Every inertial observer in SR is assumed to be in a state of absolute rest and therefore he claims the exclusive properties of the absolute rest frame which are: all the clocks moving with respect to him are running slow and the geometric projection of all the meter sticks moving with respect to him are contracted. It turns out that these claims of an SR inertial observer are valid in cases where the moving clocks and meter sticks are in a higher state of absolute motion than the SR inertial observer. That's why SR is usefult in accelerator design applications. On the other hand that's why SR is incomplete....in real life an SR observer cannot claim that he is in a state of absolute rest. He must include the possibility that an observed clock is in a lower state of absolute motion than him and thus an observed clock can run at a faster rate than his clock. This means that SR can be made complete by including this possibility. A new theory of relativty called IRT includes both possibilities. IRT includes SRT and LET as subsets. However, unlike SRT, the equations of IRT are valid in all environments, including gravity. IRT is described in the following link: http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf Ken Seto
From: rotchm on 20 Jun 2010 10:56 > SR is not wrong but it is incomplete. > Here's why: > 1. Every inertial observer in SR is assumed to be in a state of > absolute rest No. SR is a model predicting spacetime events. It uses some variables ( x, t...) and those variables represent specific physical measurements. All the rest are just irrelevant words used by various authors. absolute rest, running fast/slow, contraction etc are human descriptions/interpretations which vary from author to author and fundamentally have nothing to do with SR. SR says x = position, t = time (of the closk in question). Do this algebra ( Lor.Eqs.) and the values obtained represent the x, t, etc. Authors call these unintuitive values contraction/dilation etc.
From: mpc755 on 20 Jun 2010 11:31 On Jun 20, 10:01 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > SR is not wrong but it is incomplete. > Here's why: > 1. Every inertial observer in SR is assumed to be in a state of > absolute rest > and therefore he claims the exclusive properties of the absolute rest > frame > which are: all the clocks moving with respect to him are running slow > and the > geometric projection of all the meter sticks moving with respect to > him are > contracted. It turns out that these claims of an SR inertial observer > are valid > in cases where the moving clocks and meter sticks are in a higher > state of > absolute motion than the SR inertial observer. That's why SR is > usefult in > accelerator design applications. > On the other hand that's why SR is incomplete....in real life an SR > observer > cannot claim that he is in a state of absolute rest. He must include > the > possibility that an observed clock is in a lower state of absolute > motion than > him and thus an observed clock can run at a faster rate than his > clock. This > means that SR can be made complete by including this possibility. > A new theory of relativty called IRT includes both possibilities. IRT > includes > SRT and LET as subsets. However, unlike SRT, the equations of IRT are > valid in > all environments, including gravity. IRT is described in the following > link:http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf > > Ken Seto 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... disregarding the causes which condition its state." The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement. Aether and matter are different states of the same material. The material is maether. Maether has mass. Aether and matter have mass. Aether is uncompressed maether and matter is compressed maether. Aether is displaced by matter. The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the aether. Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced aether towards matter. A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The aether wave enters and exits multiple slits. The aether wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the aether wave and there is no interference. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. Mass does not convert to energy. Matter converts to aether. As the mæther transitions from matter to aether it increases in volume. The physical effect the increase in volume has on the neighboring matter and aether is energy. The physical effect of maether decompressing is energy. Mass is conserved. The rate at which an atomic clock 'ticks' is based upon the aether pressure in which it exists. In terms of motion, the speed of a GPS satellite with respect to the aether causes it to displace more aether and for that aether to exert more pressure on the clock in the GPS satellite than the aether pressure associated with a clock at rest with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite clock to "result in a delay of about 7 ìs/day". The aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure on the GPS satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth" causing the GPS clocks to appear faster by about 45 ìs/day". The aether pressure associated with the speed at which the GPS satellite moves with respect to the aether and the aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS satellites [to] tick approximately 38 ìs/day faster than clocks on the ground." (quoted text from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS). 'The Need to Understand Mass' By Roger Cashmore Department of Physics University of Oxford, UK. http://www.phy.uct.ac.za/courses/phy400w/particle/higgs2.htm "There is, however, one very clever and very elegant solution to this problem, a solution first proposed by Peter Higgs. He proposed that the whole of space is permeated by a field, similar in some ways to the electromagnetic field. As particles move through space they travel through this field, and if they interact with it they acquire what appears to be mass. This is similar to the action of viscous forces felt by particles moving through any thick liquid. the larger the interaction of the particles with the field, the more mass they appear to have. Thus the existence of this field is essential in Higg's hypothesis for the production of the mass of particles." The "action of viscous forces felt by particles moving through any thick liquid" is the particles interaction with the aether. The force is the pressure exerted by the displaced aether towards the particle. The "thick liquid" is the aether behaving as a frictionless superfluid 'one something'. "the larger the interaction of the particles with the field, the more mass they appear to have." The faster the particle moves with respect to the aether, the greater the pressure exerted by the displaced aether towards the particle. 'Politics, Solid State and the Higgs' By David Miller Department of Physics and Astronomy University College, London, UK. http://www.phy.uct.ac.za/courses/phy400w/particle/higgs3.htm "1. The Higgs Mechanism In three dimensions, and with the complications of relativity, this is the Higgs mechanism. In order to give particles mass, a background field is invented which becomes locally distorted whenever a particle moves through it. The distortion - the clustering of the field around the particle - generates the particle's mass. The idea comes directly from the physics of solids. Instead of a field spread throughout all space a solid contains a lattice of positively charged crystal atoms. When an electron moves through the lattice the atoms are attracted to it, causing the electron's effective mass to be as much as 40 times bigger than the mass of a free electron." The distortion of the background field is the displacement of the aether by the moving particle. The 'clustering' of the field around the particle is the 'displacing back'. The 'clustering' of the field is the pressure exerted by the displaced aether towards the particle. "The idea comes directly from the physics of solids." The aether behaves as a frictionless superfluid 'one something'. In the Casimir Effect, the aether displaced by each of the plates extends past the other plate, forcing the plates together.
From: Sam on 20 Jun 2010 11:35 On Jun 20, 9:01 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > SR is not wrong but it is incomplete. Ken, you really should learn what relativity theory is and that there has never been an observation that contracts a prediction of special or general relativity. Physics FAQ: Are There Any Good Books on Relativity Theory? http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/rel_booklist.html In my opinion, your greatest obstacle to learning relativity theory is your insistence that you can have more than one observers perspective simultaneously, which forces you to create reference frame properties and draw conclusions that make absolutely no sense. Furthermore, your fantasies are contradicted by observation. I know you are old, but buy yourself some relativity textbooks and learn relativity correctly.
From: Sam on 20 Jun 2010 11:39
On Jun 20, 9:01 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > SR is not wrong but it is incomplete. Ken, you really should learn what relativity theory is and that there has never been an observation that contracts a prediction of special or general relativity. Physics FAQ: Are There Any Good Books on Relativity Theory? http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Administrivia/rel_booklist.html In my opinion, your greatest obstacle to learning relativity theory is your insistence that you can have more than one observers perspective simultaneously, which forces you to create reference frame properties and draw conclusions that make absolutely no sense. Furthermore, your fantasies are contradicted by observation. I know you are old, but buy yourself some relativity textbooks and learn relativity correctly. -Sam Wormley |