From: Autymn D. C. on
On Jul 30, 2:40 am, John Doe <j...(a)usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
> It is discussed on the website (http://www.physicsforums.com)
> recently as this year.
>
> I see some problems with the idea as argued. They keep talking
> aboutwindspeed with respect to ground speed as if that is a
> power generator. They also seem to be pretending that gearing, or
> the difference between wheel and propeller rotation speeds, is
> somehow a power source.
>
> The follow-on argument appears to be that you can sail directly
> into thewind.
>
> I see no prior discussion here on UseNet. On the Internet, I see
> it is discussed as early as 2007. Apparently the idea was
> originated by Jack Goodman in 2006.

Glue is fast; rockets are swift; birds are quick; pizza is speedy;
motes are fleet.

It doesn't matter what the speed is; as long as there's more wind
downwind, it will pump the sail forward.

-Aut
From: Autymn D. C. on
On Jul 30, 9:24 am, "Cwatters"
<colin.wattersNOS...(a)TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote:
> plane ticket and go measure it's performance yourself. It's probably the
its, retard
From: Autymn D. C. on
On Aug 1, 4:59 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> about "sailing agisnst thewind'
> it is an   illusion!!!
> as usual  mathematicians   are discussing
> 'paper discussions  ''
> on issues   tha they never experienced

There are no illusions, but delusions.

> 2
> in addition to that
> the boat is moving in a zig zag line
> against the  wind

switchback
From: Autymn D. C. on
On Aug 1, 5:16 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> BTW a modern sailboat on a reach can sail considerably faster than thewind. But
> no boat can do so when running before thewind.

The wind is free, not fast. The statement is absurd.
From: Cwatters on

"John Doe" <jdoe(a)usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
news:4c529e1b$0$21228$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
> It is discussed on the website (http://www.physicsforums.com)
> recently as this year.
>
> I see some problems with the idea as argued. They keep talking
> about wind speed with respect to ground speed as if that is a
> power generator. They also seem to be pretending that gearing, or
> the difference between wheel and propeller rotation speeds, is
> somehow a power source.
>
> The follow-on argument appears to be that you can sail directly
> into the wind.
>
> I see no prior discussion here on UseNet. On the Internet, I see
> it is discussed as early as 2007. Apparently the idea was
> originated by Jack Goodman in 2006.


"The North American Land Sailing Association made it official Tuesday when
it ratified the results"...

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