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From: Paul on 31 Mar 2010 14:49 TVeblen wrote: > On 3/31/2010 3:31 AM, Paul wrote: >> cronoklee wrote: >>> On 31 Mar, 00:35, Mike Easter <Mi...(a)ster.invalid> wrote: >>>> cronokleewrote: >>>>> I can see the drive in Disk Managment. >>>> What happens during the disk initialization phase? >>>> >>>>> However I cannot format the drive. >>>> You didn't give enough details starting with disk management >>>> initialization sequence. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mike Easter >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi All, thanks for the replies on this. I'm still not sure what the >>> problem was but I've managed to get the drive formatted using This >>> partition manager: >>> http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm >>> >>> It took about 1 mintue and did it first time. Now why couldn't windows >>> do that eh? >>> >>> Thanks again for the prompt help! >>> Ciar�n >> >> Were you attempting to format FAT32 ? >> >> If so, WinXP has a 32GB limit. But that isn't a technical limit, >> it is political. With third party utilities, you could format >> a 2TB disk to a single FAT32 partition. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#FAT32 >> >> This is what I use for FAT32. >> >> http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm >> >> For NTFS, Windows doesn't impose any artificial limits there. >> >> ******* >> >> Another article you might read, is the one about the new >> 4KB sector hard drives. Apparently, all the drives, regardless >> of size, will be using 4KB sectors, as there is an industry wide >> agreement now to that effect. Western Digital is one of the first >> to deliver these, and they say "Advanced Format" on the label on >> the drive. >> >> http://www.anandtech.com/show/2888 >> >> Paul > > Hey Paul - do you know if you can still format these drives 64KB for video? > The 4KB thing, refers to the size of the sectors on the disk. Your reference to 64K, could be a cluster size, a stripe size or the like. And that aspect should not be affected. If anyone is interested in those 4KB sector drives, they should read some review comments on Newegg first. I haven't been keeping careful notes, but some users are having performance problems (and they didn't state exactly what they were doing with them). For the moment, 4KB disks are off my shopping list, until the smoke clears. Paul
From: TVeblen on 31 Mar 2010 16:37
On 3/31/2010 2:49 PM, Paul wrote: > TVeblen wrote: >> On 3/31/2010 3:31 AM, Paul wrote: >>> cronoklee wrote: >>>> On 31 Mar, 00:35, Mike Easter <Mi...(a)ster.invalid> wrote: >>>>> cronokleewrote: >>>>>> I can see the drive in Disk Managment. >>>>> What happens during the disk initialization phase? >>>>> >>>>>> However I cannot format the drive. >>>>> You didn't give enough details starting with disk management >>>>> initialization sequence. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mike Easter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi All, thanks for the replies on this. I'm still not sure what the >>>> problem was but I've managed to get the drive formatted using This >>>> partition manager: >>>> http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm >>>> >>>> It took about 1 mintue and did it first time. Now why couldn't windows >>>> do that eh? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for the prompt help! >>>> Ciar�n >>> >>> Were you attempting to format FAT32 ? >>> >>> If so, WinXP has a 32GB limit. But that isn't a technical limit, >>> it is political. With third party utilities, you could format >>> a 2TB disk to a single FAT32 partition. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#FAT32 >>> >>> This is what I use for FAT32. >>> >>> http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm >>> >>> For NTFS, Windows doesn't impose any artificial limits there. >>> >>> ******* >>> >>> Another article you might read, is the one about the new >>> 4KB sector hard drives. Apparently, all the drives, regardless >>> of size, will be using 4KB sectors, as there is an industry wide >>> agreement now to that effect. Western Digital is one of the first >>> to deliver these, and they say "Advanced Format" on the label on >>> the drive. >>> >>> http://www.anandtech.com/show/2888 >>> >>> Paul >> >> Hey Paul - do you know if you can still format these drives 64KB for >> video? >> > > The 4KB thing, refers to the size of the sectors on the disk. Your > reference > to 64K, could be a cluster size, a stripe size or the like. And that aspect > should not be affected. > > If anyone is interested in those 4KB sector drives, they should read some > review comments on Newegg first. I haven't been keeping careful notes, > but some users are having performance problems (and they didn't state > exactly what they were doing with them). For the moment, 4KB disks are > off my shopping list, until the smoke clears. > > Paul The problem is compounded, it would seem, by the fact that they are also making these as special purpose drives (from what I quickly gathered this morning). They have a "Desktop" drive, a RAID drive, and a VIDEO/MULTIMEDIA drive. Don't try and mix-and-match. How much fun are we having now? |