From: ray on
zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> Jon B <black.hole(a)jonbradbury.com> wrote:
> > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> >> How do the Satnavs work in iOS4 with multitasking? If you forget and
> >> leave one running in the background, does it quickly drain the
> > > battery
> >> to nothing, or dies it do something clever to avoid this?
> >>
> > Co-pilot have said when it's been stationary for 10mins they turn off
> > the GPS, but of course this doesn't allow for the times you get out of
> > the car with it and then walk for 5hrs, at which point the phone would
> > be dead.
> > <http://blog.copilotlive.net/?p=1591>
>
> Hmmm. That advice will work, but I'm surprised Jobs okayed it. The
> people who don't read the CoPilot blog are going to have troubles. I
> wonder how much this will add to support costs (and reputation) for
> CoPilot and for Apple?

CoPilot keeps GPS running after quitting the app via the Home button. If
the iPhone doesn't shift it's position for 10 minutes it drops GPS. This
is the way the iPhone multi tasking works for CoPilot. The assumption is
you've gone to another app or a phone call via the home button and will
return.
If you do quit via the home button and don't return to CoPilot but keep
driving, CoPilot continues to give instructions even though it's running
"in the background". This can get quite spookey.

There are plenty of calls in the comments on the app store for a quit
button within CoPilot, similar to the one in TomTom.
Makes sense although it's simple to quit it in the task manager.

>
> > Think a key issue here is with multitasking you've got to watch what
> > apps you're exiting sometimes...
>
> "If you see a task manager, you've failed at multitasking".

Quite so.
>
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From: zoara on
ray <datasmog(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Jon B <black.hole(a)jonbradbury.com> wrote:
>>> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do the Satnavs work in iOS4 with multitasking? If you forget
> > > > and
>>>> leave one running in the background, does it quickly drain the
>>>> battery
>>>> to nothing, or dies it do something clever to avoid this?
>>>>
>>> Co-pilot have said when it's been stationary for 10mins they turn
> > > off
>>> the GPS, but of course this doesn't allow for the times you get out
> > > of
>>> the car with it and then walk for 5hrs, at which point the phone
> > > would
>>> be dead.
>>> <http://blog.copilotlive.net/?p=1591>
>>
>> Hmmm. That advice will work, but I'm surprised Jobs okayed it. The
>> people who don't read the CoPilot blog are going to have troubles. I
>> wonder how much this will add to support costs (and reputation) for
>> CoPilot and for Apple?
>
> CoPilot keeps GPS running after quitting the app via the Home button.
> If
> the iPhone doesn't shift it's position for 10 minutes it drops GPS.
> This
> is the way the iPhone multi tasking works for CoPilot.

The downside of that was mentioned by Jon when he said the same thing ;)


> If you do quit via the home button and don't return to CoPilot but
> keep
> driving, CoPilot continues to give instructions even though it's
> running
> "in the background". This can get quite spookey.

Sounds perfect to me. The problem comes when you forget and leave it
running - especially if you have voice prompts turned off.

> There are plenty of calls in the comments on the app store for a quit
> button within CoPilot, similar to the one in TomTom.

Oh? Eyebrow raised. TomTom has a quit button?

> Makes sense although it's simple to quit it in the task manager.

Simple but neither elegant or discoverable. Even a quit button (or
rather, the need for one) isn't that discoverable, since the non-techy
may not associate "sat nav in the background" with "where the hell has
my battery life gone?"

It's difficult to see how this can be fixed.

>>> Think a key issue here is with multitasking you've got to watch what
>>> apps you're exiting sometimes...
>>
>> "If you see a task manager, you've failed at multitasking".
>
> Quite so.

Which makes me wonder why Apple haven't come up with a better solution
for this...

-z-



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From: ray on
zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> > There are plenty of calls in the comments on the app store for a quit
> > button within CoPilot, similar to the one in TomTom.
>
> Oh? Eyebrow raised. TomTom has a quit button?

Er, well the one on my Palm did. Can't comment on other versions.

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From: zoara on
ray <datasmog(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>> There are plenty of calls in the comments on the app store for a
> > > quit
>>> button within CoPilot, similar to the one in TomTom.
>>
>> Oh? Eyebrow raised. TomTom has a quit button?
>
> Er, well the one on my Palm did. Can't comment on other versions.

Oh, gotcha. I thought they'd added a quit button to the iPhone app as
part of an update to support iOS4.

-z-

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