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From: David Webber on 9 Feb 2010 14:57


"David Webber" <dave(a)musical-dot-demon-dot-co.uk> wrote in message
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> ...learn in my mind...

That's 'clear' in my mind. Damned spilchoqueur!

Dave

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From: Cholo Lennon on 9 Feb 2010 16:33
David Webber wrote:
>
>
> "Ajay Kalra" <ajaykalra(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:00de461e-d176-45c1-ada1-7ca2b9672ded(a)o3g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>
>> I also came across this one: http://www.novapdf.com/
>>
>> I have no idea how good it is (trial is free) but its considerably
>> cheaper ($50) than pdflib. Worth a look.
>
> This looks like one of the ones the user installs as a "printer" so that
> any application can "print" to this "printer" to create a PDF file.
>
> I've used a similar one - pdfFactoryPro - which is also very good. But
> in either case, each user of my software would have to buy and install
> the product to enable them to save PDF files with my software (and lots
> of other programs). Now that Microsoft Word can just "Save as PDF"
> with no 3rd party software, the temptation for people to buy such a
> program is less, and I am starting to think that a "Save As PDF" on my
> own menu - with all components integrated with the program (well maybe a
> DLL installed with it) would be a good idea. OK this would only work
> from my program, but then I wouldn't add $50 to the price :-)
>

Well, if this kind of software is still an option you have PDFCreator
which is free and open source, sadly in VB :-P

http://www.pdfforge.org/pdfcreator


> I don't want to have to learn all there is to know about PDF format -
> but a suitably priced library which I could link (statically of
> dynamically) with my software would be ideal.
>
> Dave


Regards

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From: Hector Santos on 9 Feb 2010 21:22
David Webber wrote:

> "Christian Freund" <freund(a)wrz.de> wrote in message
> news:76F854FD-622E-49A0-BC92-60F7B82DB559(a)microsoft.com...
>
>> We use pdflib too and it is really good. I think the price is fair and
>> there is also a "pdflib-lite"-version with slightly reduced
>> functionality when you create open-source-software.
>
> What I'm looking for is a library I can build into software I'm selling
> (ie it's not open source), so that anyone using my software can save his
> work as a PDF file. I don't mind paying for it, but I'd be put off if
> royalties were involved.
>
> Given the recommendation here, I have contacted the pdflib people to get
> the licensing terms learn in my mind. Thanks Everyone.
>

If you ever used Google Docs, it allows you to save/download PDF
documents. I recall being curious to see what software they used, so
I imported a text file, saved and downloaded a pdf and viewed it with
the Adobe reader. In the FILE | Document Properties | Summary, I saw
it used PrinceXML.com

http://www.princexml.com

If this is for commercial operations, the professional version is
strategically priced to be below the normal petty cash limit
(generally $500) before you might have to get more signatures to
purchase. :)

This is something I'm going to re-look at in the near future for an
update of our Report Generator tool. What we did in 2003 for this
reporting tool. which can output in various formats, was look for the
PDF writer installation and just use that.

Do a google search for:

adobe PDF writer redistribution
or
free adobe acrobat writer

There are many vendors. What I remember the last time I did this, was
the common among they free versions is that they burned in
"something" in the docs, like in the Document Summary. I wasn't too
keen with that but that might mean extra dollars hide/disable this
burning with a paid version. I mention this because I scratched my
head wondering why Google Docs PDF downloads have the burned in vendor
name. For most corporations considering to use Google Docs as SaaS,
that would not be something desirable. Did Google have a "Free
version"? What package/version do they have? I don't know if you paid
for Google Docs, if the use a different PDF writer.

Just things to consider.

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From: Mikel on 10 Feb 2010 02:19
On Feb 9, 11:36 am, "Giovanni Dicanio"
<giovanniDOTdica...(a)REMOVEMEgmail.com> wrote:
> "Goran" <goran.pu...(a)gmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggionews:f5d1274c-879f-4a7d-845d-29692171d2f9(a)z26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> For example, OpenOffice (an open-source kind of clone of Office 2003)
>
> > Hey, that's not fair, the thing existed long before 2003 ;-).
>
> :)
>
> I meant: the GUI of OpenOffice is similar to the Office 2003's one and not
> to the new one of Office 2007.
>
> Giovanni

How about libharu?
http://libharu.sourceforge.net/index.html

Seems like it's free for commercial use as well, and that it doesn't
force your app to be GPL or anything
From: David Webber on 10 Feb 2010 08:17


"Christian Freund" <freund(a)wrz.de> wrote in message
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> We use pdflib too and it is really good. I think the price is fair and
> there is also a "pdflib-lite"-version with slightly reduced functionality
> when you create open-source-software.

Just had a reply from PDFLIB: the licence which would allow me to include
their PDF generation as an integral part of my software would cost Euro
10,000.-.

I'm sure Microsoft could afford it, but for a small family business selling
very specialist music notation software to home users for not much more than
Euro 100.- a throw, it is just so far beyond affordable as to be almost
unimaginable :-(

Ah well.

Dave
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