School budgets cut, but what about making genuine savings with open source?
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From: swiders2 on 8 Jul 2010 16:29 On Jul 5, 3:22 pm, 7 <website_has_em...(a)www.enemygadgets.com> wrote: > School budgets cut, but what about making genuine savings with open source? > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/jul/05/school-building-progr... > > School budgets are being cut in UK, and probably across most of EU and America, > so when are we going to see the widespread uptake of open source? > > It has lower cost and runs on lot lower hardware requirements. I'm working on a global effort that focuses specifically on this issue. We are partnering with many other organizations with similar efforts. http://www.geotf.org If you or anybody else is interested in getting involved, please let us know http://www.geotf.org/contact
From: Robert Billing on 8 Jul 2010 17:04 We, the Senate of Arcturus, take note that Ian said: > On 5 July, 21:22, 7 <website_has_em...(a)www.enemygadgets.com> wrote: > >> It has lower cost and runs on lot lower hardware requirements. > > I see Thunderbird 3 needs a minimum of 1GB RAM. ....when blasting off through the hole in the summerhouse. SCRI
From: Hadron on 8 Jul 2010 21:52 PeeGee <triessuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes: > On 06/07/10 15:59, DFS wrote: >> On 7/6/2010 2:59 AM, PeeGee wrote: >>> On 05/07/10 22:24, DFS wrote: >>>> On 7/5/2010 5:21 PM, PeeGee wrote: >>>>> On 05/07/10 21:22, 7 wrote: >>>>>> School budgets cut, but what about making genuine savings with open >>>>>> source? >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/jul/05/school-building-programme-budget-cuts >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> School budgets are being cut in UK, and probably across most of EU and >>>>>> America, >>>>>> so when are we going to see the widespread uptake of open source? >>>>>> >>>>>> It has lower cost and runs on lot lower hardware requirements. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> While the exam boards only accept MS-centric answers and anything else >>>>> is marked wrong (even when correct, as the "correct" answers supplied >>>>> for marking use MS terminology), there won't be a change to open >>>>> source. >>>>> >>>>> I have also seen "correct" answers that are totally incorrect!!!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> Which "exam boards" do this? >>>> >>>> Which tests? >>>> >>> >>> This was about 4 years ago and >>> a) I didn't note the details, but GCSE IT exams; >>> b) I have retired since and have no access to such information now. >>> >>> I was providing IT/Network support and passed the info to the head of >>> the IT dept. >> >> >> So no proof or details whatsoever, just a lame anti-MS claim that you >> can't support. >> >> My guess is you're a Linux "advocate". >> >> > > Your guess is wrong. I do use Linux for this internet facing system as > it is less prone to virus problems, in my opinion, based on none > onNeil OK. DFS was right. No facts. Just clueless drivel ... > this > system and two on my MS based systems (a direct result of floppy disks > with work on brought from school by my son, though). However, a period > of 15 years or so isn't very long. Aha. The "son" and "floppy disks".... A true COLA "advocate" fairy tail > > If you are using my sig as a basis - it is a quotation as indicated. You fail at trying to be clever.
From: Rex Ballard on 9 Jul 2010 02:02 On Jul 6, 4:21 pm, "Clogwog" <clog...(a)anon.eu> wrote: > "Gordon" <gordonbpar...(a)yahoo.com> schreef in berichtnews:i0vtsn$one$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... And the conversation degenerates into little more than two 4th graders shouting names at each other. What better way to kill interest in what could have been a very interesting thread. > >>> Err NONE of which they are allowed to use at SCHOOL! Idiot.... > >> It's perfectly all right to "Hotmail" school papers and projects to the > >> teachers, timetables a.s.o., vice versa, Gortard! They can also use gmail, Thunderbird, Lotus Notes, enlightenment, or even pine. Do you think Microsoft invented E-mail? E-mail was widely used on UNIX systems back when Microsoft was still trying to figure out how to copy a file from one CP/M system to another CP/M system - since you couldn't use floppies, and there were no good file transfer programs for RS-232. Microsoft couldn't even get Microsoft BASIC source code from one computer to another. By that time, UNIX administrators were sending e-mail to each other over dial-up lines, including mailing lists. > >> It's perfectly all right to use pictures from skydrive photo albums for > >> their school PowerPoint presentations. Of course, if they use Impress, and save it in ppt format, the teacher would also have to accept the assignment. In some school districts, teachers are not allowed to mark down for MS-Office/OO incompatibility issues. After all, the teacher is there to teach them grammer, syntax, composition, and how to formulate linguistically correct sentences, paragraphs, pages, chapters, term papers, and thesis papers. They are NOT there to dictate font selection. > >> b.t.w. 90% of the schools run Windows, But what versions? Some schools are still using computers that run Windows 95. How many computers does each school have? Dell could easily recycle enough computers to put a PC on every kids desk - but those computers would have to run Linux. Instead, there are enough computers for each kid to share a computer with 2-3 other kids for about 30 minutes. > >> kids are familiar with Windows Kids are really good at learning new things. And buy the way, some of the earliest Linux users, were 10-15 year old kids. When Microsoft released Windows 95, it was possible to get Windows 3.1 computers for free. The problem was that the kids wanted to be able to get on the Internet. Linux made it possible for them to not only dial-up to the local BBS Internet Pop, but also made it possible to create modest little Linux servers. With each new release of Windows, there are hundreds of millions of "Recycle" PCs, all of which can easily be made useful, simply by installing Linux. Many are sent to children - in South and Central America, in Africa, in rural China and India, in Eastern Europe, and many other smaller villages. In some cases, the machines are charged using windmills, solar panels, or even ox-wheels. Villages can even access the internet using a WiFi device connected to a power amplifier, similar to ham radio equipment. Other forms of radios can also be used to extend the range to several miles. Many rural areas also have cellular towers, and cellular transmission networks, that can be used to provide access superior to what's possible in rural America. > >> and go on using it, as grown ups after school time, whether you like it > >> or not! Many of those kids who created their own Linux server/desktops are now IT managers and outperforming their "Windows Only" counterparts. Knowing Linux also gives them much more knowledge of HOW the computer does what it does, not just how to click the right buttons with your mouse. > > Yes FROM HOME Even from home, parents have to deal with the fact that their kids know more about the computers than they do. It's nearly impossible to prevent a kid who wants to see something from seeing it, especially on Windows. With Linux, if the parents don't tell the kid the root password, the parents can maintain control of their kids' PCs. More importantly, with LInux, they can afford enough PCs for the whole family, rather than just one for the whole family. > Not at all, Gortard, Vice Versa. Until 2007 I was a part-time teacher at ROC > Utrecht, the Netherlands. OMG, at teacher, someone who ACTUALLY knows what they are talking about. I just had kids in school, and mentored some kids, starting at 14 years old, through college. One of my "adopted children" was a CTO within 2 years after graduating, and CTO for a very large company who did health care treatment tracking. Eventually, after several hackers broke in and accessed medical history records, ALL Windows devices were banned from the premises. > Kids were free to use anything on school computers as described above for > school purposes. When I was programming educational software for schools, we actually created software that taught them how to do math, how to write in english properly. They got presentations on history and social studies. Eventually, every kid got at least 4 hours on the computer, and didn't have to share. The UNIX community developed a whole line of OSS K-12 educational programs, many of which are still in use today, but mostly in private schools, since school boards can affort enough computers to give each kid even ONE hour of time alone on the computer, let alone 4. > ROC Utrecht has 30.000 children on 28 locations, 100% Windows, no Linux > crappola! (like most schools) > <rest of this morons cluelessness snipped>
From: Chink Chonk on 9 Jul 2010 03:11
Look. Sensible use of money: Microsoft Waste of money: Linux AS IN - Sensible use of money: http://www.reading.ac.uk/about/newsandevents/releases/PR286735.aspx WASTING MONEY http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/10519139.stm Those with mental health issues have been put in charge of giving money out - and you thought Gordon Brown was an arsehole! |