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From: eric gisse on 27 Jun 2010 20:09
...@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
[...]

> Yes. Earth lies on the outskirts of our galaxy. Average cosmic light is
> emitted much closer to the centres of other galaxies.
> Since light slows as it escapes galactic gravity and speeds up as it falls
> towards other masses, it is obvious that average starlight is arriving at
> Earth at speeds lower than c and is therefore redshifted.

Then how come frequency times wavelength always equals c?

>
>
>
> Henry Wilson...
>
> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: Brad Guth on 27 Jun 2010 20:40
On Jun 27, 5:09 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Yes. Earth lies on the outskirts of our galaxy. Average cosmic light is
> > emitted much closer to the centres of other galaxies.
> > Since light slows as it escapes galactic gravity and speeds up as it falls
> > towards other masses, it is obvious that average starlight is arriving at
> > Earth at speeds lower than c and is therefore redshifted.
>
> Then how come frequency times wavelength always equals c?
>
>
>
> > Henry Wilson...
>
> > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

Because you can make math do anything you want. All you need to do is
obfuscate as to whatever doesn't produce the desired results.

~ BG
From: Painius on 28 Jun 2010 11:38
"eric gisse" <jowr.pi.nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote...
in message news:i08p7p$tbn$5(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Yes. Earth lies on the outskirts of our galaxy. Average cosmic light is
>> emitted much closer to the centres of other galaxies.
>> Since light slows as it escapes galactic gravity and speeds up as it
>> falls
>> towards other masses, it is obvious that average starlight is arriving at
>> Earth at speeds lower than c and is therefore redshifted.
>
> Then how come frequency times wavelength always equals c?

Yes, Eric, but is the rest of what he said of merit? If
light loses energy as it leaves its star's/galaxy's gravity
well, and then regains energy as it enters our gravity
well, is this -energy/+energy pretty much a balanced
effect? Does one cancel out the other? Or is there an
offset, an imbalance, to some degree?

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

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of all evil in the world."
> Max Born, quantum physicist, and
Olivia Newton John's grandfather!

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From: Double-A on 28 Jun 2010 12:22
On Jun 27, 3:11 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:29:01 -0400, "HVAC" <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"Double-A" <double...(a)hush.com> wrote in message
> >news:ac0eaf95-322f-4fae-88d0-1589f9bdc870(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com....
> >No, most of the red shift happens while the light is in the strongest
> >part of the gravitational field close to the star.  The question is
> >whether the light red shifts because it is sapped of energy by the
> >star's gravity as it moves away from it, or it a result of the
> >difference in time frame between the star's surface and the observer.
> >If you have a pulse generated by a ticking clock, the pulse will seem
> >to be slower if the clock is placed on a star's surface where time is
> >more dilated.  When atoms emit light of a characteristic frequency, it
> >follows that they would emit light of a slightly lower frequency if
> >located on the Star's surface.  So is it one or the other, or is a
> >little of both going on?
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> >So much utter trash is posted here as science that
> >you'd think the poster is a professional dumpster-diver.
>
> >Wait a tick.....He IS !
>
> >Red shift is a product of relative speed.  Period.
>
> Yes. Earth lies on the outskirts of our galaxy. Average cosmic light is emitted
> much closer to the centres of other galaxies.
> Since light slows as it escapes galactic gravity and speeds up as it falls
> towards other masses, it is obvious that average starlight is arriving at Earth
> at speeds lower than c and is therefore redshifted.
>
> Henry Wilson...


I suspect you are right, but I can't prove it. I think the
measurements we have are not yet accurate enough to verify one way or
the other. But Harlow sounds as if he doesn't even know that light
coming out of a gravity well is red shifted, and he has been telling
people he is an astrophysicist.

Double-A

From: HVAC on 28 Jun 2010 16:10

"Double-A" <double-a3(a)hush.com> wrote in message
news:6853f04f-a802-4e38-9f28-b1926366b0ff(a)d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...

I suspect you are right, but I can't prove it. I think the
measurements we have are not yet accurate enough to verify one way or
the other. But Harlow sounds as if he doesn't even know that light
coming out of a gravity well is red shifted, and he has been telling
people he is an astrophysicist.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


You drunk again AA?

Sober up and think!


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