From: Larry on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote in news:michelle-
F9A9DF.17280205052010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi:

> Ditching Flash for HTML5, like YouTube
>
>

Which Apple website are you finding all this earthshaking news,
Michelle?

The html5 working group posts this to Wikipedia's html5 site:

"The HTML5 specification was adopted as the starting point of the work
of the new HTML working group of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) in
2007. This working group published the First Public Working Draft of the
specification on January 22, 2008.[3] The specification is an ongoing
work, and is expected to remain so for many years, although parts of
HTML5 are going to be finished and implemented in browsers before the
whole specification reaches final Recommendation status.[4]

According to the W3C timetable, it is estimated that HTML5 will reach
W3C Recommendation by late 2010. However, the First Public Working Draft
estimate was missed by 8 months, and Last Call and Candidate
Recommendation were expected to be reached in 2008,[5] but as of April
2010[update] HTML5 is still at Working Draft stage in the W3C.[6] HTML5
has been at Last Call in the WHATWG since October 2009.[7]

Ian Hickson, editor of the HTML5 specification, expects the
specification to reach the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage during
2012, and W3C Recommendation in the year 2022 or later."

I'm a little confused. You koolaid drinkers talk as if this html5 is
ready to push Flash's face in the dirt, first thing in the morning, not
in 2022...OR LATER! HTML5 is still, as of Apr 2010, still in the
WORKING DRAFT stage. It isn't even in alpha test phase! The work on it
is horribly late, horribly in tatters and won't even be a CANDIDATE for
W3C recommendation before 2012!

By the time html5 is ready for issue, Flash will be Flash 28.1 and all
the guys working on it at Adobe that look like teenagers will be old men
with long white beards with grandchildren!

You fans have just gotta stop pouring VODKA into that Kupertino Kickapoo
Koolaid! The Reality Distortion Field is beginning to make ships coming
into Californicate harbors way off course!

HTML5 is a DREAM, not a system, today.


--
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Larry

From: Larry on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote in news:michelle-
F9A9DF.17280205052010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi:

> Ditching Flash for HTML5, like YouTube
>
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5

You'll want the URL, of course.....


--
Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.

Larry

From: JF Mezei on
Larry wrote:

> I'm a little confused. You koolaid drinkers talk as if this html5 is
> ready to push Flash's face in the dirt, first thing in the morning, not
> in 2022...OR LATER! HTML5 is still, as of Apr 2010, still in the
> WORKING DRAFT stage.


802.11n had working wireless products out on the market well before the
standard was formally signed off a few months ago.

It is very common to have such "standards" become in widesread use
before they are signed, sealed and delivered as formal fixed standards.

There are a number of browsers who have already implemented HTML5 as it
stands now (the iphone/ipad devices, Safari and I believe Google Chrome
have HTML5 support) . So this isn't just vapourware. And they will
update their HTML5 implementation as the standard evolves.


> You fans have just gotta stop pouring VODKA into that Kupertino Kickapoo
> Koolaid!

I'll have to repent and apologize to our Lord Steve Jobs because I
didn't buy any Kool Aid this week, I bought a competitor's product. I
have be forced to make a visit to the Apple place of worship soon.
From: Jolly Roger on
In article
<michelle-A5EE01.19001305052010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <Xns9D6FDB6376E9Enoonehomecom(a)74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone(a)home.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm a little confused.
>
> That's your normal state.
>
> > HTML5 is still, as of Apr 2010, still in the WORKING DRAFT stage.
>
> And just about every version of HTML was in the working draft stage when
> just about every web browser finally implemented it.
>
> It's here; it's working. That's what counts.
>
> > HTML5 is a DREAM, not a system, today.
>
> Tell that to YouTube.

Why does Larry keep trolling when he looses his lame arguments so
consistently? Because it's truly the only thing he knows how to do!
What a sad, sad life that must be!

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From: Larry on
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in news:050520102354416052%
nospam(a)nospam.invalid:

> a few? you need to recount.
>

5.5%....a miniscule amount.

You'll need the chart, of course:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Web_browser_usage_share.svg

If you were Mercedes Benz and wanted to get car ads in front of internet
browsers, and you had a choice between FLASH playing on IE, Firefox,
Chrome and Opera but not Safari.....or.....HTML5/H.264 proprietary video
codec playing on Chrome and Safari but NOT on IE, Firefox or
Opera.......

.....Which would you choose??

Quit covering your eyes and hiding behind the Reality Distortion
Field....come on....out with it!

The answer is quite obvious:

http://www3.mercedes-benz.com/mbcom_v4/us/de.html

Which is it you see? Without FLASH, it won't play at all!

With Flash....it's beautiful!

http://mercedes-benz.tv/de/clip-518/Mille+Miglia+2008

html5 might replace Flash in 2020, but it isn't even out of the garage,
now! It's experimental and it's NOT a media player like Flash is!




--
Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.

Larry