From: Cydrome Leader on
In sci.electronics.basics John Tserkezis <jt(a)techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:
> Martin Brown wrote:
>
>> And it is at least worth the occasional visual inspection of the
>> batteries for obvious signs of swelling and distortion of the case.
>
> Unfortunately, that's not an effective enough test. Most fail at end
> of life looking like new. So a visual test alone is not enough.
>
> Some of the large commercial scale units perform an internal battery
> test with a limited load, with the marketing blurb claiming it's good
> enough to detect a dud battery even while the unit is live and running,
> never having to go offline for the test.

I've chatted with and watched quite a few large (tens to hundreds of kVA)
UPS maintenance techs.

the standard procedure seems to be a visual check, retighten all
connectors, measure voltage across all batteries, then again with the UPS
in test mode where there is a real load across the batteries.

They can usually spot a bad battery before it would cause problems.

larger UPSes have redundant strings of batteries so even with a dud you
can still operate.
From: terryS on
On Jun 3, 3:23 pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...(a)MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> In sci.electronics.basics John Tserkezis <j...(a)techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Martin Brown wrote:
>
> >> And it is at least worth the occasional visual inspection of the
> >> batteries for obvious signs of swelling and distortion of the case.
>
> > Unfortunately, that's not an effective enough test.  Most fail at end
> > of life looking like new.  So a visual test alone is not enough.
>
> > Some of the large commercial scale units perform an internal battery
> > test with a limited load, with the marketing blurb claiming it's good
> > enough to detect a dud battery even while the unit is live and running,
> > never having to go offline for the test.
>
> I've chatted with and watched quite a few large (tens to hundreds of kVA)
> UPS maintenance techs.
>
> the standard procedure seems to be a visual check, retighten all
> connectors, measure voltage across all batteries, then again with the UPS
> in test mode where there is a real load across the batteries.
>
> They can usually spot a bad battery before it would cause problems.
>
> larger UPSes have redundant strings of batteries so even with a dud you
> can still operate.

The telephone industry has been using vented lead acid batteries for
decades; and has very precuise instructions for charging and then
maintaining the 'maintenance' or float voltage. Also checking for
discrepancies between individual cells.

Mostly telecomm. batteries are 'floated' so that they are sitting
there neither charging or discharging ready for instant use if/when
the power fails.

So while most auto and similar batteries will charge at anything up to
a voltage of 2.33 volts per cell (that's 14 volts for a so called, six
cell, 12 volt auto battery) and be completely discharged at just
below 2.00 volts per cell ( 11.9 volts for auto) the
telecommunications batteries are carefully floated at ether 2.15 volts
or 2.17 volts per cell, dependent on which administration e.g. ATT or
UK Telecomms. and whether the battery cells are Lead-Calcium or Lead
Antimony construction.

As said; you can ruin a battery by overcharging it (have seen them
boiled dry) and or leaving them in a discharged state for long periods
of time. Heat is also a factor, under the hood of a motor vehicle in
hot climate being one of the worst environments. In some parts of the
Middle East auto batteries sometimes last only a couple of years;
whereas in a cool climate with light use our Nissan pickup battery is
already 8 years old and may not have to be replaced yet, even next
winter!

UPS batteries are also floated; but when they are needed they are
probably discharged aggressively for relatively short periods of time
to operate inverters etc.
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