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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 16 Apr 2010 11:11 On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:43:25 +0100, Michael H. Phillips <mhp(a)odtaa.invalid> wrote: >On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:47:53 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote: > >> What are you running it on at the moment, and what operations are >> annoyingly slow? You might be better putting a couple of hundred quid >> into RAM in your current box than �1200 on a new/old machine. > >A G5. Adobe CS5 requires Intel. Major point. >> ... I've nothing against people buying new machines but I do like >> people to be doing it for the right reasons. If your expectation is >> that it'll speed up your current workflow, you're likely to be >> disappointed unless the workflow is CPU or memory restricted. > >I'd expect a speed increase and would be disappointed if it wasn't >noticeable. Even if it's the latest, greatest G5 you've got, this box would be minimum two-three times faster at anything, often much more than that. >And I'd hope for greater stability -- Illustrator CS4 is a crash >a day. Um. I wouldn't count on *that* getting much better... Intel CS4 has a great reputation for being crashy, and I'd not expect CS5 to be any different. >I don't really want one. In fact I dread re-installing all my applications. Reinstallation is unnecessary, you do the Migration Assistant dance instead. When everything's copied over, it's almost as before but faster. >But I *do* want the new edition of Illustrator and for that I need an Intel >Mac. Right. In which case, I'd definitely class this as a good buy. You need Intelness more than absolute speed, and that's a very decent machine for that money. Cheers - Jaimie -- "Now there sits a man with an open mind. You can feel the draft from here." - Groucho Marx
From: Chris Ridd on 16 Apr 2010 11:43 On 2010-04-16 16:11:30 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh said: > Reinstallation is unnecessary, you do the Migration Assistant dance > instead. When everything's copied over, it's almost as before but > faster. I would imagine that this would also involve a phone call to Mr Adobe to please let me run my CS4 programs on a different machine. -- Chris
From: Michael H. Phillips on 16 Apr 2010 13:05 On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:43:47 +0100, Chris Ridd wrote: > I would imagine that this would also involve a phone call to Mr Adobe > to please let me run my CS4 programs on a different machine. It *should* involve no more than de-activating CS4 on the G5 and re-activating on the Pro by internet. But a recent experience makes me dubious. Illustrator CS4 suddenly decided it was an expired trial version. The Adobe support person on the telephone wasn't of much help but she did get a more senior colleague to email me the instructions to get it working again. This entailed downloading a super-uninstaller from the Adobe site and then re-installing and re-registering all my CS3 and CS4 applications. It was great fun. -- Michael mhphillips at gmail dot com
From: James Jolley on 16 Apr 2010 13:12 On 2010-04-16 18:05:38 +0100, Michael H. Phillips <mhp(a)odtaa.invalid> said: > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:43:47 +0100, Chris Ridd wrote: > >> I would imagine that this would also involve a phone call to Mr Adobe >> to please let me run my CS4 programs on a different machine. > > It *should* involve no more than de-activating CS4 on the G5 and > re-activating on the Pro by internet. But a recent experience makes me > dubious. Illustrator CS4 suddenly decided it was an expired trial version. > The Adobe support person on the telephone wasn't of much help but she did get > a more senior colleague to email me the instructions to get it working again. > This entailed downloading a super-uninstaller from the Adobe site and then > re-installing and re-registering all my CS3 and CS4 applications. It was > great fun. Isn't DRM just brilliant then! How long did that take? I've had so many people complain about Adobe products over the years.
From: Chris Ridd on 16 Apr 2010 13:18
On 2010-04-16 18:12:00 +0100, James Jolley said: > Isn't DRM just brilliant then! How long did that take? I've had so many > people complain about Adobe products over the years. I'd have called it copy protection and not DRM myself, but maybe DRM does cover it... Either way it is frustrating. -- Chris |