From: Mike Rosenberg on
thepixelfreak <not(a)dot.com> wrote:

> > You could buy a much more recent used one, or likely an older new one
> > (with FW) for less than it would cost to replace the motherboard, which
> > is what it would take.
>
> I'm not familiar with MacOS X stack traces but the last two the OP
> posted would seem to be graphics related.
>
> Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
> com.apple.ATIRadeon8500(4.1.8)@0x84e000
> dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000
> dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x814000
> dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x838000

And the fix for that would be a motherboard replacement.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <2010020808324616807-not(a)dotcom>,
thepixelfreak <not(a)dot.com> wrote:

> On 2010-02-08 05:31:59 -0800, mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike
> Rosenberg) said:
>
> > John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Okay, you say it's software. I guess you determined that from the log
> >>> somehow, which means you should also know exactly how to fix it.
> >>>
> >>> So, tell us, which software is it and how did you determine this? And
> >>> how did you determine that it's not a problem that arose when said
> >>> software attempted to access defective memory?
> >>
> >> To be hionest Mike I dont have a clue!!!!!!!
> >
> > And yet you started a thread with the subject, "See Mike its software."
> >
> > It's NOT software. You've already ruled that out several times by
> > reinstalling the OS.
> >
> >> I dont know what the issue is.
> >
> > And yet several of us have told you repeatedly: It's bad RAM.
> >
> >> I dont want to buy a new Mac if I can fix this one.
> >
> > You could buy a much more recent used one, or likely an older new one
> > (with FW) for less than it would cost to replace the motherboard, which
> > is what it would take.
>
> I'm not familiar with MacOS X stack traces but the last two the OP
> posted would seem to be graphics related.
>
> Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
> com.apple.ATIRadeon8500(4.1.8)@0x84e000
> dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000
> dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x814000
> dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x838000

Could be. Could also be bad system RAM though.

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From: Mike Rosenberg on
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> > I'm not familiar with MacOS X stack traces but the last two the OP
> > posted would seem to be graphics related.
> >
> > Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
> > com.apple.ATIRadeon8500(4.1.8)@0x84e000
> > dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.7)@0x48d000
> > dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.2)@0x814000
> > dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.2)@0x838000
>
> Could be. Could also be bad system RAM though.

Yep, and removing a 1 GB DIMM, leaving only the 256 MB onboard RAM, and
getting increased kernel panics appears to point that way. Not that the
distinction matters practically, since either way the motherboard is
shot.

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From: Mike Rosenberg on
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah which means I should buy a new mac before the screen completely
> goes out and I cant even run that migration app to transmit to the new
> Mac.

If only the screen goes out, you can still start up in target disk mode
to run the migration app. Also, you can always remove the HD and mount
it in an external case. Dismantling an iBook isn't easy, but if there's
no concern about having to reassemble it, it's not so bad. Oh, and
aren't you making a clone backup of it? If not, you should be and
certainly you should be NOW. Anyway, you can use the backup with
Migration Assistant.

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From: Mike Rosenberg on
John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article <1jdl65t.81ubi71mfnpr2N%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
> mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>
> > You could buy a much more recent used one, or likely an older new one
> > (with FW) for less than it would cost to replace the motherboard, which
> > is what it would take.
>
> Ebay?

Yes, people do sell things on eBay.

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