From: bob on
http://www.picturebusinessmag.com/article/cellphone-giant-nokia-recently-filed-patent-us-self-charging-cellphone-battery/1?sponsor=newsletter/digital-clique

bob
From: William Sommerwerck on
This general idea is hardly new. There have been patents for gadgets you
attach to your leg, and body movements generate electricity to charge a
battery.

The problem with this patent is that it uses a piezo device. Unfortunately,
they don't generate very much energy. You'd certainly be able to "top off"
the battery, but I don't think you'd be able to bring it back from a heavy
discharge very quickly. Maybe the former is all they care about.


From: sparky on
On Apr 14, 2:09 pm, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...(a)comcast.net>
wrote:
> This general idea is hardly new. There have been patents for gadgets you
> attach to your leg, and body movements generate electricity to charge a
> battery.
>
> The problem with this patent is that it uses a piezo device. Unfortunately,
> they don't generate very much energy. You'd certainly be able to "top off"
> the battery, but I don't think you'd be able to bring it back from a heavy
> discharge very quickly. Maybe the former is all they care about.



Quite similar to the self winding mechanical wrist watches.


Certainly nothing new !
From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:15:34 -0700 (PDT), sparky <sparky12x(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Quite similar to the self winding mechanical wrist watches.
>Certainly nothing new !

It's called "energy scavenging". It's a big thing in portable product
design. If it reduces battery size, or eliminates the battery, it's a
winner. I'm finding such ideas in watches, shoes, automobile shock
absorbers, PDA's, etc. It will take a while for them to come to
market but I expect them to be commonplace fairly soon.

I'm surprised nobody has made a wind-up cell phone. Besides not
requiring a battery or charger (uses a super-capacitor), it will keep
the chronic talkers in line. Not exactly energy scavenging, but (in
my opinion) just as good.

Incidentally, I designed, prototyped, but never produced a paper tape
printing pager in the early 1970's. The pager ran on batteries, but
the 1/4" paper tape transport and printing was all wind-up mechanical.
I also proposed a wind-up portable floppy disk drive in the 1980's,
which was summarily rejected by literally everyone as a lousy idea. Oh
well.

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From: William Sommerwerck on
> I'm surprised nobody has made a wind-up cell phone. Besides not
> requiring a battery or charger (uses a super-capacitor), it will keep
> the chronic talkers in line. Not exactly energy scavenging, but (in
> my opinion) just as good.

I have a hand-crank radio/flashlight/charger that can charge cell phones.
The problem with building it into the phone iteself is that it's "too big"
for such a small device.


> Incidentally, I designed, prototyped, but never produced a paper tape
> printing pager in the early 1970's. The pager ran on batteries, but
> the 1/4" paper tape transport and printing was all wind-up mechanical.
> I also proposed a wind-up portable floppy disk drive in the 1980's,
> which was summarily rejected by literally everyone as a lousy idea.
> Oh, well.

As the drive would have to be connected to computer that could power it, and
the wind-up mechanism + interface would be more complex than a motor -- what
would be the point?