From: jason hirsh on

On Aug 13, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Wietse Venema wrote:

> jason hirsh:
>> I am apparently having an issue with some servers whose mail is being
>> rejected because of
>>
>> reject_unknown_hostname
>>
>> the reject was shown here
>>
>> Aug 11 00:21:36 xxxxxxx postfix/smtpd[96422]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT
>> from mail01a.yesbank.com[65.196.66.182]: 450 4.7.1
>> <MTL01PPSMTP1.YESBANK.COM>: Helo command rejected: Host not found;
>> from=<pbonamas(a)yesbank.com> to=<diane(a)witheld.com> proto=ESMTP
> ...
>> but no reject message went out... Is there a way I can esnure an
>> error message goes out to the sender???
>
> No reject message is sent out because your server answers with SMTP
> reply code 450. This corresponds with a "Try Again" class error.
> The SENDING MTA will give up after trying for several days. Only then
> will the sending MTA inform sender that the message is undeliverable,
>
> The 450 reply code means that the hostname lookup failed because
> Postfix received no reply when it looked up the client hostname,
> or when it tried to verify that the name really resolves to the
> client IP address.
>

Ahh so where my server will try for 5 days before giving up ... the
sender's will try for a period too THEN notify him..

Thanks.. now that I can sell.....

if I can't get the clients to agree I would have to drop this
restriction

this combined with Larry Stones comment on the Back Scatter Issues is
of a tremendous help

thanks to all


> Wietse

From: Michael Orlitzky on
On 08/13/2010 02:31 PM, jason hirsh wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Wietse Venema wrote:
>
>> jason hirsh:
>>> I am apparently having an issue with some servers whose mail is being
>>> rejected because of
>>>
>>> reject_unknown_hostname
>>>
>>> the reject was shown here
>>>
>>> Aug 11 00:21:36 xxxxxxx postfix/smtpd[96422]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT
>>> from mail01a.yesbank.com[65.196.66.182]: 450 4.7.1
>>> <MTL01PPSMTP1.YESBANK.COM>: Helo command rejected: Host not found;
>>> from=<pbonamas(a)yesbank.com> to=<diane(a)witheld.com> proto=ESMTP
>> ...
>>> but no reject message went out... Is there a way I can esnure an
>>> error message goes out to the sender???
>>
>> No reject message is sent out because your server answers with SMTP
>> reply code 450. This corresponds with a "Try Again" class error.
>> The SENDING MTA will give up after trying for several days. Only then
>> will the sending MTA inform sender that the message is undeliverable,
>>
>> The 450 reply code means that the hostname lookup failed because
>> Postfix received no reply when it looked up the client hostname,
>> or when it tried to verify that the name really resolves to the
>> client IP address.
>>
>
> Ahh so where my server will try for 5 days before giving up ... the
> sender's will try for a period too THEN notify him..

Only in response to temporary (4xx) codes. In and after Postfix 2.6, the
response is configurable (unknown_helo_hostname_tempfail_action).