Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?
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From: RayLopez99 on 23 Mar 2010 11:33 On Mar 23, 11:11 am, peterwn <pmiln...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 23, 8:51 pm, RayLopez99 <raylope...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus > > (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using > > commercial antivirus protection? > > Yes. I had to clean up a Windows laptop last year despite things > being kept up to date and AV installed. The AV was bloody hopeless at > setecting it despite being kept up to date. OK fine. Outlier. One in a million I would reckon. Tell us what virus it was, as that info should not be confidential. Unless it was so obscure that only one user, your client, had it. Anybody else? RL
From: RayLopez99 on 23 Mar 2010 11:43 On Mar 23, 2:08 pm, Leythos <spam999f...(a)rrohio.com> wrote: > In the 30+ years I've been working with computers I've had exactly 1 > malware on a computer that I own or manage for clients - that's > thousands of workstations and hundreds of servers over that time. > > In the case of the 1 malware, the machine was not secured, was basically > behind a NAT, using Local Admin, and was running Symantec End Point > Protection 11.0.4 (or 11.4.0, can't remember) - the malware gained > complete control of the machine in seconds after being redirected to a > malicious website. > > I switched to Avira Antivir and connected to the same website and the > malware was blocked - I have moved myself and clients to Avira and not > had any infections. > > We test with 5 malware scanners monthly. Thank you Sir. You are a scholar and a gentleman. A true voice of reason in a wilderness of babbling buffoons and hominid baboons. RL
From: RayLopez99 on 23 Mar 2010 11:44 On Mar 23, 3:24 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu...(a)my-deja.com> wrote: > I was running AVG ver. 8 and got some malware that hogged all the CPU > time. It caused operation to slow so much that I couldn't run the > computer and had to transfer the HD to a computer with a dual core > CPU. A full scan with AVG indicated the problem but couldn't fix it. > Norton detected nothing, and free online scans by Trend and PC Pit > Stop didn't fix it (I don't remember if they detected it), but Bit > Defender partially did, and the rest of the problem was solve with > either ComboFix or SmithFraudFix. What OS? What year? What was the name of the virus if I can ask? That sounds incredible. RL
From: Wolf K on 23 Mar 2010 11:47 Moshe wrote: > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99 wrote: > >> Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus >> (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using >> commercial antivirus protection? > Several of my correspondents have had their machines compromised by spyware/etc, happens about once every couple of months. Sign: e-mails with appropriated addresses and inappropriate content. _All_ of them had McAfee or Norton installed. Most of them even paid the yearly subscription (update) fee. My wife's machine was compromised about three years ago. We changed her e-mail address, and installed AVG, and then (after AVG became bloated and slow) Avira as primary protection. Also scan with MBAM, Spybot S&D, etc, about once a month, just in case. cheers, wolf k.
From: RayLopez99 on 23 Mar 2010 11:48
On Mar 23, 5:28 pm, Moshe <goldee_loxnbag...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99 wrote: > > Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus > > (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using > > commercial antivirus protection? > > It happens all the time. > Usually brought in from outside sources and when the person > bypasses the checking. > > It's like everything else in the world, you can't prevent an idiot > from circumventing the tools put in place to protect him. Moshe, your examples are fine, but they are not what I'm talking about. That's not a real example since the user deliberately circumvented safeguards to keep out the virus from their system. In other words, anybody can disable their AV software, or ignore repeated warnings, and "install" the virus on their system deliberately (or even 'accidentally' through negligence). That's not a true virus infection. RL |