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From: Aragorn on 7 Apr 2010 02:55 On Tuesday 06 April 2010 16:17 in comp.os.linux.hardware, somebody identifying as RayLopez99 wrote... > On Apr 6, 4:03 am, Aragorn <arag...(a)chatfactory.invalid> wrote: > >> On Monday 05 April 2010 15:25 in comp.os.linux.hardware, somebody >> identifying as chrisv wrote... >> >> > Aragorn wrote: >> >> >> On Sunday 04 April 2010 13:07 in comp.os.linux.hardware, somebody >> >> identifying as RayLopez99 wrote... >> >> > Good God, there's a lot of people who like to feed worthless >> > trolls. >> >> I remember you from when I was still subscribed to C.O.L.A. myself, >> Chris, but as you can see, I am replying from C.O.L.H. Therefore, I >> am not familiar with any of the troll nyms that have started to occur >> after I left C.O.L.A. all these years ago. > > You did not miss anything. Of that I am aware. C.O.L.A. actually has the wrong name. It's supposed to be a newsgroup for GNU/Linux advocacy, while it has become the home for rabid Windows advocates instead. > Chrisv is essentially a disrupter of COLA-- he wants conversation to > only revolve around his own posts, [... That is not how I remember him at all. > ...] and they all have to be happy talk about how great Linux is. Perhaps because it's supposed to be a GNU/Linux advocacy group? Duh! > Chrisv would do well in North Korea (which uses Linux in it's "Red > Star" OS, says the news today). Yes, North Korea has followed in the footsteps of the People's Republic of China, who have built their own "Red Flag" distribution. Still, GNU/Linux advocacy *is* perfectly on-topic for C.O.L.A., so if that is what ChrisV is doing - and it *is* what I remember him to have been doing - then he is perfectly within his rights to do so. >> Although there was a serious amount of trollbaiting going on in the >> original post, I chose to reply because I felt that, for the sake of >> the lurkers in the group I'm posting this from, sound advice should >> be given, FUD should be rectified, and the intent of the original >> poster should be made clear. > > And you failed. As I told you, you misread my original post. I am > not booting Linux on an old machine, even 2 years old, but a new > machine to be built. That was the only mistake I made in my original reply to you. You also spouted lots of other nonsense on which I set you straight. I don't see that as failure at all. >> (1) they're so afraid of it that they hate it, because they >> fear that it'll take over the market and force them to >> use something other than Windows; and > > A just fear. I don't see why. GNU/Linux is vastly superior to anything the guys in Redmond can come up with. As I have told you in my original reply, GNU/Linux is a UNIX-style operating system, and there is a reason as to why longstanding IT professionals, engineers, scientists and motion picture production companies have stuck to UNIX. Windows only owes its commercial success to very clever and sometimes outrageously deceptive marketing, and there is a reason as to why it was pushed this way and this hard by Microsoft. Making money out of it was only part of that. The real reason is the fact that the proprietary nature of the Microsoft code subjugates every Windows user to vendor lock-in and other "intellectual property" strategies. If you own a Windows computer, then the operating system on it - and all other Microsoft software you have installed - remains the property of Microsoft, not *your* property and not at your leisure to do with as you please. >> (2) they don't know what they're talking about, and they may >> have picked up a few nonsensical things from other clueless >> Windows fanboys. > > Some perhaps, but not me. Oh, I seriously doubt that, given your comment about the lack of web browsers in GNU/Linux. Unless you know you were lying, of course, and given that you as a Windows fanboy reside in C.O.L.A. there is a just suspicion to corroborate that. >> I don't feed trolls for fun. I also don't feed trolls so as to >> disrupt the newsgroup, and I equally don't feed trolls out of some >> egotripping, selfindulging drive, or out of hatred for one or all of >> these individuals. >> >> I "feed trolls" - if you can call it that, but I do not, which is why >> I put it between quotes - because I want to rectify the >> misinformation, both to them and towards the insufficiently aware >> lurkers and newbies, onto whom the FUD spread by these trolls could >> have the very effect that FUD is intended to have. > > And you have failed. No, I did not. Just because you keep on repeating it doesn't make it any less false. -- *Aragorn* (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
From: RayLopez99 on 7 Apr 2010 16:44 On Apr 7, 5:19 pm, B Sellers <bl...(a)sfo.com> wrote: > You ignore the newbies who drop in for information about > the systems. To them he sounds halfway reasonable, I am reasonable. I cite my works, unlike chrisv, who is all opinion. I deal in logic, unlike my opponents who just name call. RL
From: Moshe on 7 Apr 2010 20:39 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:12:40 -0500, Terry Porter wrote: > On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 0> > As far as newbies go, I too felt this way once, and refuted all troll > nonsence for the same reasons. Yea, but you get most of it wrong Terry Porter. > However as the Internet is full of bad information, wrong information and > clever FUD information etc, I decided that a newbie will need to learn to > sift thru what's real and what's not anyway. And much of that wrong information comes from you Terry 'telnet' Porter.
From: chrisv on 8 Apr 2010 08:44 Terry Porter wrote: >Dopez is a excellent troll, and he knows how to get responses from >bonafide Linux advocates with his cleverly crafted half truths You've got to be joking. What he writes screams "idiot troll" to me...
From: chrisv on 8 Apr 2010 13:27
Terry Porter wrote: >On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:44:54 -0500, chrisv wrote: > >> Terry Porter wrote: >> >>>Dopez is a excellent troll, and he knows how to get responses from >>>bonafide Linux advocates with his cleverly crafted half truths >> >> You've got to be joking. What he writes screams "idiot troll" to me... > >Me too, but we have many years of Linux troll experience. Just look at >the sheer number of responses the troll gets ? Proving that one need not be "clever" to get fed by troll-feeders, many of whom know exactly what is happening. I don't think that newbies are fooled as easily as some suppose, either. All it takes is one slip-up to spot a dishonest idiot. -- "choice : for the brain dead." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark |