Server Management console gone wacky after updates
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From: Milhouse Van Houten on 4 Jul 2010 02:43 This is a strange one. We updated our SBS 2003 R2 with these updates: http://i50.tinypic.com/15mn4n5.jpg Upon reboot, Server Management showed this problem 100% of the time in my profile on the server (admin-level account), and eventually in the Administrator account though not immediately: http://forums.msrportal.com/showthread.php?t=9843 Also, as described here in relation to the same problem, there are some weird icon/text issues that are highly reminiscent of GDI deficiencies on XP. Sometimes icons are missing in Explorer, sometimes the menu come up in the wrong font, etc. It's entirely random. http://www.petri.co.il/forums/showthread.php?t=32203 The permissions on the given folder have not changed, nor have the two console files in it. Most other MMC consoles work, though that can change too depending on the GDI state, I guess. When they don't work, they show a similar error. Still on MMC 3.0. No process in Task Manager is taking an unusual amount of GDI. So...while I can't prove one of the 8 updates did it, I have no other suspects, and the other fellow mention it happening after updates, too. It was all working fine immediately before. Any ideas? One thing I'm sure of: this is not an infection.
From: Russ (SBITS.Biz) [SBS-MVP] on 4 Jul 2010 22:27 I really don't like to go to other posts to read what is going on. but you say it's been happening since installation in the post and then in this post you say it just happened after updates? Which is it? And then you say on that post it looks for (c:\admin\launchconsole.exe) Is that correct error you are talking about? And if this has been happening since initial install. when you installed SBS did you Start at Disk1 and not stop until all the disks were installed 4 or 5? Or just stop at Disk1? If you stopped at Disk1 this is probably why, because SBS was designed to be installed Fully!~ not just disk1 Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com Easy Redirect to Microsoft's New SBS Public Forum - www.SBSRepair.com "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:O4IkeQ0GLHA.5472(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > This is a strange one. We updated our SBS 2003 R2 with these updates: > http://i50.tinypic.com/15mn4n5.jpg > > Upon reboot, Server Management showed this problem 100% of the time in my > profile on the server (admin-level account), and eventually in the > Administrator account though not immediately: > http://forums.msrportal.com/showthread.php?t=9843 > > Also, as described here in relation to the same problem, there are some > weird icon/text issues that are highly reminiscent of GDI deficiencies on > XP. Sometimes icons are missing in Explorer, sometimes the menu come up in > the wrong font, etc. It's entirely random. > http://www.petri.co.il/forums/showthread.php?t=32203 > > The permissions on the given folder have not changed, nor have the two > console files in it. Most other MMC consoles work, though that can change > too depending on the GDI state, I guess. When they don't work, they show a > similar error. Still on MMC 3.0. No process in Task Manager is taking an > unusual amount of GDI. > > So...while I can't prove one of the 8 updates did it, I have no other > suspects, and the other fellow mention it happening after updates, too. It > was all working fine immediately before. > > Any ideas? One thing I'm sure of: this is not an infection.
From: Milhouse Van Houten on 5 Jul 2010 02:33 I didn't write the other post (it's not recent) - I cited it as precedent and because it listed the error. Mine began just with the recent updates I mentioned. All was well immediately before. Yes, I first noticed it when running Server Management after rebooting after the updates. It's an MMC involving Launchconsole.exe (as seen in the properties of the shortcut), but ultimately itprosbsconsole.msc (c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\SmallBusinessServer\Administration). But, the failure to open that window is fairly contagious, so scores of other MMCs don't work either now, fonts go off randomly, some small Explorer icons go missing, etc (as mentioned in the second link). It's some kind of GDI problem for sure, but I have no idea what or how. I do note that one of the updates was an IE7 cumulative, which of course updates all sorts of shell files, so that seems the most likely of them. That no one else is mentioning this currently is interesting though, suggesting an unusual interaction with something else or a fluke. I'll try a reboot ASAP. "Russ (SBITS.Biz) [SBS-MVP]" wrote in message news:868BA835-16DC-4554-B646-FF61558FFA2F(a)microsoft.com... I really don't like to go to other posts to read what is going on. but you say it's been happening since installation in the post and then in this post you say it just happened after updates? Which is it? And then you say on that post it looks for (c:\admin\launchconsole.exe) Is that correct error you are talking about? And if this has been happening since initial install. when you installed SBS did you Start at Disk1 and not stop until all the disks were installed 4 or 5? Or just stop at Disk1? If you stopped at Disk1 this is probably why, because SBS was designed to be installed Fully!~ not just disk1 Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com Easy Redirect to Microsoft's New SBS Public Forum - www.SBSRepair.com "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:O4IkeQ0GLHA.5472(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > This is a strange one. We updated our SBS 2003 R2 with these updates: > http://i50.tinypic.com/15mn4n5.jpg > > Upon reboot, Server Management showed this problem 100% of the time in my > profile on the server (admin-level account), and eventually in the > Administrator account though not immediately: > http://forums.msrportal.com/showthread.php?t=9843 > > Also, as described here in relation to the same problem, there are some > weird icon/text issues that are highly reminiscent of GDI deficiencies on > XP. Sometimes icons are missing in Explorer, sometimes the menu come up in > the wrong font, etc. It's entirely random. > http://www.petri.co.il/forums/showthread.php?t=32203 > > The permissions on the given folder have not changed, nor have the two > console files in it. Most other MMC consoles work, though that can change > too depending on the GDI state, I guess. When they don't work, they show a > similar error. Still on MMC 3.0. No process in Task Manager is taking an > unusual amount of GDI. > > So...while I can't prove one of the 8 updates did it, I have no other > suspects, and the other fellow mention it happening after updates, too. It > was all working fine immediately before. > > Any ideas? One thing I'm sure of: this is not an infection.
From: Milhouse Van Houten on 5 Jul 2010 20:32 Reboot didn't help. Uninstalling KB982381 didn't help. "Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message news:e4yvDwAHLHA.6120(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... I didn't write the other post (it's not recent) - I cited it as precedent and because it listed the error. Mine began just with the recent updates I mentioned. All was well immediately before. Yes, I first noticed it when running Server Management after rebooting after the updates. It's an MMC involving Launchconsole.exe (as seen in the properties of the shortcut), but ultimately itprosbsconsole.msc (c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\SmallBusinessServer\Administration). But, the failure to open that window is fairly contagious, so scores of other MMCs don't work either now, fonts go off randomly, some small Explorer icons go missing, etc (as mentioned in the second link). It's some kind of GDI problem for sure, but I have no idea what or how. I do note that one of the updates was an IE7 cumulative, which of course updates all sorts of shell files, so that seems the most likely of them. That no one else is mentioning this currently is interesting though, suggesting an unusual interaction with something else or a fluke. I'll try a reboot ASAP. "Russ (SBITS.Biz) [SBS-MVP]" wrote in message news:868BA835-16DC-4554-B646-FF61558FFA2F(a)microsoft.com... I really don't like to go to other posts to read what is going on. but you say it's been happening since installation in the post and then in this post you say it just happened after updates? Which is it? And then you say on that post it looks for (c:\admin\launchconsole.exe) Is that correct error you are talking about? And if this has been happening since initial install. when you installed SBS did you Start at Disk1 and not stop until all the disks were installed 4 or 5? Or just stop at Disk1? If you stopped at Disk1 this is probably why, because SBS was designed to be installed Fully!~ not just disk1 Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com Easy Redirect to Microsoft's New SBS Public Forum - www.SBSRepair.com "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:O4IkeQ0GLHA.5472(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > This is a strange one. We updated our SBS 2003 R2 with these updates: > http://i50.tinypic.com/15mn4n5.jpg > > Upon reboot, Server Management showed this problem 100% of the time in my > profile on the server (admin-level account), and eventually in the > Administrator account though not immediately: > http://forums.msrportal.com/showthread.php?t=9843 > > Also, as described here in relation to the same problem, there are some > weird icon/text issues that are highly reminiscent of GDI deficiencies on > XP. Sometimes icons are missing in Explorer, sometimes the menu come up in > the wrong font, etc. It's entirely random. > http://www.petri.co.il/forums/showthread.php?t=32203 > > The permissions on the given folder have not changed, nor have the two > console files in it. Most other MMC consoles work, though that can change > too depending on the GDI state, I guess. When they don't work, they show a > similar error. Still on MMC 3.0. No process in Task Manager is taking an > unusual amount of GDI. > > So...while I can't prove one of the 8 updates did it, I have no other > suspects, and the other fellow mention it happening after updates, too. It > was all working fine immediately before. > > Any ideas? One thing I'm sure of: this is not an infection.
From: Milhouse Van Houten on 5 Jul 2010 22:14 I found something that seems to be it. http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs&tid=18bf4b8f-fcd1-4bc7-a079-26a7444938ae&cat=&lang=&cr=&sloc=&p=1 When I read there that TSAppCompat could cause the problem, I checked mine and found that it was still at 0. So, no luck there. However, this meant something because I knew that a couple weeks ago I was looking at related settings for our 2008 R2 RDS to be visible in RWW. I temporarily did enable TSEnabled, but it's been on 0 since that day, and the server had been rebooted since that time. I further recalled, though, that I enabled AppTS then, as shown here, and it's been enabled since then: http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2008/05/20/attaching-a-windows-2008-terminal-server-box-to-a-sbs-2003-server.aspx So I put that back on 0 and rebooted, on the theory that if one TS setting could cause the problem, then AppTS could too. That wasn't it, but I'm very close now. The first post goes on to say that having TSEnabled=0 can cause the problem! That's a puzzler. I'm hesitant to enable it. The defaults for TSEnabled, TSAppCompat, and AppTS *are* 0, right? "Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message news:#Fzr5KKHLHA.3352(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Reboot didn't help. Uninstalling KB982381 didn't help. "Milhouse Van Houten" wrote in message news:e4yvDwAHLHA.6120(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... I didn't write the other post (it's not recent) - I cited it as precedent and because it listed the error. Mine began just with the recent updates I mentioned. All was well immediately before. Yes, I first noticed it when running Server Management after rebooting after the updates. It's an MMC involving Launchconsole.exe (as seen in the properties of the shortcut), but ultimately itprosbsconsole.msc (c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\SmallBusinessServer\Administration). But, the failure to open that window is fairly contagious, so scores of other MMCs don't work either now, fonts go off randomly, some small Explorer icons go missing, etc (as mentioned in the second link). It's some kind of GDI problem for sure, but I have no idea what or how. I do note that one of the updates was an IE7 cumulative, which of course updates all sorts of shell files, so that seems the most likely of them. That no one else is mentioning this currently is interesting though, suggesting an unusual interaction with something else or a fluke. I'll try a reboot ASAP. "Russ (SBITS.Biz) [SBS-MVP]" wrote in message news:868BA835-16DC-4554-B646-FF61558FFA2F(a)microsoft.com... I really don't like to go to other posts to read what is going on. but you say it's been happening since installation in the post and then in this post you say it just happened after updates? Which is it? And then you say on that post it looks for (c:\admin\launchconsole.exe) Is that correct error you are talking about? And if this has been happening since initial install. when you installed SBS did you Start at Disk1 and not stop until all the disks were installed 4 or 5? Or just stop at Disk1? If you stopped at Disk1 this is probably why, because SBS was designed to be installed Fully!~ not just disk1 Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com Easy Redirect to Microsoft's New SBS Public Forum - www.SBSRepair.com "Milhouse Van Houten" <btvs(a)myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:O4IkeQ0GLHA.5472(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > This is a strange one. We updated our SBS 2003 R2 with these updates: > http://i50.tinypic.com/15mn4n5.jpg > > Upon reboot, Server Management showed this problem 100% of the time in my > profile on the server (admin-level account), and eventually in the > Administrator account though not immediately: > http://forums.msrportal.com/showthread.php?t=9843 > > Also, as described here in relation to the same problem, there are some > weird icon/text issues that are highly reminiscent of GDI deficiencies on > XP. Sometimes icons are missing in Explorer, sometimes the menu come up in > the wrong font, etc. It's entirely random. > http://www.petri.co.il/forums/showthread.php?t=32203 > > The permissions on the given folder have not changed, nor have the two > console files in it. Most other MMC consoles work, though that can change > too depending on the GDI state, I guess. When they don't work, they show a > similar error. Still on MMC 3.0. No process in Task Manager is taking an > unusual amount of GDI. > > So...while I can't prove one of the 8 updates did it, I have no other > suspects, and the other fellow mention it happening after updates, too. It > was all working fine immediately before. > > Any ideas? One thing I'm sure of: this is not an infection.
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