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From: AES on 13 May 2010 11:29
I read news at Stanford University on a MacBook (OS 10.4.11) using the
latest version of MT-NewsWatcher. Stanford has long had a news server
named nntp.stanford.edu; but the IT powers that be for some arcane
reason recently set up a new server named news.stanford.edu and said we
should use that. The new name is the only one that will respond to a
Windows >> Show Full Group List menu command in MTNW.

I recently began to believe that some of my postings to various groups
were not getting through, and wondering why this might be, took a look
at the menu command Special >> News Servers. The Server Options Tab in
the resulting dialog box shows two servers in the left hand column:

"news.stanford.edu", which has settings Server Name = nntp.stanford.edu
and Port = 563, and is checked

"nntp.stanford.edu", which also has Server Name = nntp.stanford.edu but
has Port = 119, and is not checked

It looks like the first server options definition (the one I'm using) is
maybe miscoded, and should be Server Name = news.stanford.edu ??

But, when I changed that definition to "news.stanford.edu" and closed
the dialog box, this instantly froze MT-NewsWatcher, in the sense that
absolutely *every* menu command, including the Quit command, was grayed
out, and all I could do was Force Quit MTNW. And when I re-opened it,
this setting remained unchanged.

I'm talking to the Stanford IT people about what these settings should
be -- but what about this freeze? Is it some kind of long hidden glitch
in MTNW?
From: Tom Harrington on 13 May 2010 12:59
In article <siegman-B5644B.08291313052010(a)sciid-srv02.med.tufts.edu>,
AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote:

> I read news at Stanford University on a MacBook (OS 10.4.11) using the
> latest version of MT-NewsWatcher. Stanford has long had a news server
> named nntp.stanford.edu; but the IT powers that be for some arcane
> reason recently set up a new server named news.stanford.edu and said we
> should use that. The new name is the only one that will respond to a
> Windows >> Show Full Group List menu command in MTNW.
>
> I recently began to believe that some of my postings to various groups
> were not getting through, and wondering why this might be, took a look
> at the menu command Special >> News Servers. The Server Options Tab in
> the resulting dialog box shows two servers in the left hand column:
>
> "news.stanford.edu", which has settings Server Name = nntp.stanford.edu
> and Port = 563, and is checked
>
> "nntp.stanford.edu", which also has Server Name = nntp.stanford.edu but
> has Port = 119, and is not checked
>
> It looks like the first server options definition (the one I'm using) is
> maybe miscoded, and should be Server Name = news.stanford.edu ??

Based on what you've said, yes. The entry in the left-hand column is
just a name, and could be anything. You could call the server "Bob" if
you wanted and it would work if the server details are correct.

> But, when I changed that definition to "news.stanford.edu" and closed
> the dialog box, this instantly froze MT-NewsWatcher, in the sense that
> absolutely *every* menu command, including the Quit command, was grayed
> out, and all I could do was Force Quit MTNW. And when I re-opened it,
> this setting remained unchanged.
>
> I'm talking to the Stanford IT people about what these settings should
> be -- but what about this freeze? Is it some kind of long hidden glitch
> in MTNW?

Sounds like a glitch in MT-NW, and nothing the Stanford admins have any
reason to know about. I'd just try again, for starters, sometimes
crashes just happen for obscure reasons.

--
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
http://www.atomicbird.com/
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