From: Tom Stiller on
In article <240120100712007533%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <1jcuglm.13eooizq8wvkgN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson
> <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > Another possibility is if you had reinstalled the system after
> > installing the developer tools. That would have rebuilt /usr/bin from
> > scratch, so you would no longer have the second copy of the command line
> > developer tools there.
>
> that explains it. i recently did a migration, and it's further proof
> that migration assistant does an incomplete job.

It is no such thing. Options for the Migration Assistant do not suggest
that system components will be replaced/restored, only applications and
user related files.

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Tom Stiller

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From: nospam on
In article <tom_stiller-D10117.07293524012010(a)news.individual.net>, Tom
Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> > > Another possibility is if you had reinstalled the system after
> > > installing the developer tools. That would have rebuilt /usr/bin from
> > > scratch, so you would no longer have the second copy of the command line
> > > developer tools there.
> >
> > that explains it. i recently did a migration, and it's further proof
> > that migration assistant does an incomplete job.
>
> It is no such thing. Options for the Migration Assistant do not suggest
> that system components will be replaced/restored, only applications and
> user related files.

it copied xcode, just not all of it. that's incomplete.

in fact, i had two versions of xcode installed, a supported
configuration, and it only copied one of them. it also skipped some
network configurations for mobile phones that were not that simple to
add. migration assistant does a pretty good job, but to say it copies
everything is simply false.
From: Tom Stiller on
In article <240120101446557021%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <tom_stiller-D10117.07293524012010(a)news.individual.net>, Tom
> Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Another possibility is if you had reinstalled the system after
> > > > installing the developer tools. That would have rebuilt /usr/bin from
> > > > scratch, so you would no longer have the second copy of the command line
> > > > developer tools there.
> > >
> > > that explains it. i recently did a migration, and it's further proof
> > > that migration assistant does an incomplete job.
> >
> > It is no such thing. Options for the Migration Assistant do not suggest
> > that system components will be replaced/restored, only applications and
> > user related files.
>
> it copied xcode, just not all of it. that's incomplete.

/usr/bin is not part of XCode.
>
> in fact, i had two versions of xcode installed, a supported
> configuration, and it only copied one of them. it also skipped some
> network configurations for mobile phones that were not that simple to
> add. migration assistant does a pretty good job, but to say it copies
> everything is simply false.

Who said "it copies everything"? I didn't see that as an option when I
ran it.

--
Tom Stiller

PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
From: nospam on
In article <tom_stiller-F5987F.15584924012010(a)news.individual.net>, Tom
Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> /usr/bin is not part of XCode.

xcode is putting stuff there and it's not copied. there are system
related things in /var/db that *are* copied. migration assistant can
easily tell if it's migrating xcode and it can copy the parts that are
added.

> > in fact, i had two versions of xcode installed, a supported
> > configuration, and it only copied one of them. it also skipped some
> > network configurations for mobile phones that were not that simple to
> > add. migration assistant does a pretty good job, but to say it copies
> > everything is simply false.
>
> Who said "it copies everything"? I didn't see that as an option when I
> ran it.

exactly my point.
From: Doug Anderson on
Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> writes:

> In article <240120101446557021%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
> nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <tom_stiller-D10117.07293524012010(a)news.individual.net>, Tom
> > Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Another possibility is if you had reinstalled the system after
> > > > > installing the developer tools. That would have rebuilt /usr/bin from
> > > > > scratch, so you would no longer have the second copy of the command line
> > > > > developer tools there.
> > > >
> > > > that explains it. i recently did a migration, and it's further proof
> > > > that migration assistant does an incomplete job.
> > >
> > > It is no such thing. Options for the Migration Assistant do not suggest
> > > that system components will be replaced/restored, only applications and
> > > user related files.
> >
> > it copied xcode, just not all of it. that's incomplete.
>
> /usr/bin is not part of XCode.
> >
> > in fact, i had two versions of xcode installed, a supported
> > configuration, and it only copied one of them. it also skipped some
> > network configurations for mobile phones that were not that simple to
> > add. migration assistant does a pretty good job, but to say it copies
> > everything is simply false.
>
> Who said "it copies everything"? I didn't see that as an option when I
> ran it.

Right. Furthermore, one really doesn't want it to copy "everything"
unless the machine you are moving to is identical from the one you
were on before, and you want to be running the same version of the OS
and all other software.

Given the complexity of the task (copy just what I want to the new
machine without copying stuff that will break things) I'm always a bit
astonished at how well Migration Assistant does.

My experience is that it does _very_ well as copying home folders, but
I don't understand either what decisions MA would make, or what
decision it _should_ make well enough to be willing to use it to copy
software.
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