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Generally, copying files from a different computer wouldn't make any
difference providing that it is the same Windows version and same
service pack level. I can't be 100% sure but I don't think that it will
make too much difference because when you slipstream SP2 the files in
the i386 folder will be replaced with the ones from the newer SP2, but I
don't know if that particular file will be replaced.

Being that both of the computers are Dell and if both cds are the same
Windows version (Home, Pro or MCE), if the cd from your pc is giving you
problems you can just create the new slipstreamed cd using the cd from
your wife's computer, the cd will work for both computers, if you need
to reinstall just don't use the same key for both computers. The
Product ID key is unique to each computer, the rest is the same and the
cds are identical providing that the Windows version is the same.

John

Roman King wrote:

> John,
> I have a related question for you.
> A minor problem started when I started to make SlipStream SP2 disks
>
> We have two Dell computers at home ( for my self and wife).
> Mine is XP Pro SP1 and my wife, XP Pro SP1a.
> While copying the XP Pro SP1 disk to a hard drive (at c:\xp\i386), one
> file could not be read.
> That was I386\LANG\SIMSUN.TT_ (5,321,389).
> What I did was that I copied the same file from my Wife's XP SP1a disk and
> pasted to c:\xp\i386. The file size was the same between two XP disks but
> the date was different.
> Then, SP2 was integrated without any hitch.
>
> I wonder whether the replacement of the Simsun.tt_ from a different XP would
> matter when I use the slipstreamed disk for sfc/ scannow or reinstalling
> windows?
> (I feel that the original XP SP1 probably cannot be used for installing
> windows because of the corrupted file).
>
> Regards,
>
> Roman
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "John John" <audetweld(a)nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:O6gD8cZEIHA.536(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>>You're welcome. It's a very good idea to have a CD with the same Service
>>Pack, if you ever need to do a repair install you will need it anyway, so
>>it's best to be prepared. One less hassle to deal with when disaster
>>strikes!
>>
>>John
>>
>>Roman King wrote:
>>
>>
>>>John,
>>>
>>>Since I did not have a slipstreamed SP2 CD, I did not try sfc /scannow
>>>when I had problems with HDs two weeks ago.
>>>Upon reading your post, I made a slipstreamed CD yesterday by following
>>>Paul Thurrott's instruction.
>>>I also created slipstreamed SP2 CD for my Dell computer (for home use).
>>>Thanks again for the suggestion about slipstream.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Roman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"John John" <audetweld(a)nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:eh2FYZMEIHA.4880(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Gerry;
>>>>
>>>>If you don't have a slipstreamed cd or if you don't have one at all (you
>>>>only have a service partition or a "restoration" cd) you can just change
>>>>the "SourcePath" in the registry and change the location of files so that
>>>>SFC will look in the i386 folder instead of the cd.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.pchomecall.org.uk/support/sfc.htm
>>>>
>>>>Regards;
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Gerry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Roman
>>>>>
>>>>>Before you move on regarding System File Checker. A lot of problems
>>>>>resolve down to problematic drivers or memory. Where this is the case
>>>>>you often do not know which it is so you work through the easier
>>>>>solutions. If your Window XP CD contains the SP2 update using System
>>>>>File Checker is an easy task. It's not easy if your original Windows XP
>>>>>CD is pre SP2 as you need a slipstreamed CD to run System File Checker.
>>>>>A slipstreamed CD is a CD where the contents of the original XP CD and
>>>>>the SP2 update have been merged.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>

From: Roman King on
Both CDs are the same WinXP Pro but the difference is SP1 (for my CD) vs.
SP1a (for my wife).

> if you need to reinstall just don't use the same key for both computers.
> The Product ID key is unique to each computer, the rest is the same and
> the cds are identical providing that the Windows version is the same.

I have done reformatting and reinstalling XP a lot on my office computer
(this is not Dell) but not on Dell computers, because Dell computers have
been very stable and reliable. The last time I reinstalled XP Pro SP1 on my
Dell computer was about 2 or 3 years ago. So my memory is very fuzzy at
this moment on how I re-installed XP on Dell.

But I clearly recall that I once tried to install my wife's XP SPIa (because
hers is newer than mine) on my Dell computer but it refused to install. If
typing in Product ID key is required, I probably used my Dell's key not my
wife's Dell Key. That could be the problem.

BTW, does installing XP on "Dell" Computer requires typing in product key?
I don't remember.

Regards,

Roman







"John John" <audetweld(a)nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:etYKdqaEIHA.4028(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Generally, copying files from a different computer wouldn't make any
> difference providing that it is the same Windows version and same service
> pack level. I can't be 100% sure but I don't think that it will make too
> much difference because when you slipstream SP2 the files in the i386
> folder will be replaced with the ones from the newer SP2, but I don't know
> if that particular file will be replaced.
>
> Being that both of the computers are Dell and if both cds are the same
> Windows version (Home, Pro or MCE), if the cd from your pc is giving you
> problems you can just create the new slipstreamed cd using the cd from
> your wife's computer, the cd will work for both computers, if you need to
> reinstall just don't use the same key for both computers. The Product ID
> key is unique to each computer, the rest is the same and the cds are
> identical providing that the Windows version is the same.
>
> John
>
> Roman King wrote:
>
>> John,
>> I have a related question for you.
>> A minor problem started when I started to make SlipStream SP2 disks
>>
>> We have two Dell computers at home ( for my self and wife).
>> Mine is XP Pro SP1 and my wife, XP Pro SP1a.
>> While copying the XP Pro SP1 disk to a hard drive (at c:\xp\i386), one
>> file could not be read.
>> That was I386\LANG\SIMSUN.TT_ (5,321,389).
>> What I did was that I copied the same file from my Wife's XP SP1a disk
>> and pasted to c:\xp\i386. The file size was the same between two XP
>> disks but the date was different.
>> Then, SP2 was integrated without any hitch.
>>
>> I wonder whether the replacement of the Simsun.tt_ from a different XP
>> would matter when I use the slipstreamed disk for sfc/ scannow or
>> reinstalling windows?
>> (I feel that the original XP SP1 probably cannot be used for installing
>> windows because of the corrupted file).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Roman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "John John" <audetweld(a)nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:O6gD8cZEIHA.536(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>You're welcome. It's a very good idea to have a CD with the same Service
>>>Pack, if you ever need to do a repair install you will need it anyway, so
>>>it's best to be prepared. One less hassle to deal with when disaster
>>>strikes!
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>Roman King wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>John,
>>>>
>>>>Since I did not have a slipstreamed SP2 CD, I did not try sfc /scannow
>>>>when I had problems with HDs two weeks ago.
>>>>Upon reading your post, I made a slipstreamed CD yesterday by following
>>>>Paul Thurrott's instruction.
>>>>I also created slipstreamed SP2 CD for my Dell computer (for home use).
>>>>Thanks again for the suggestion about slipstream.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Roman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John John" <audetweld(a)nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eh2FYZMEIHA.4880(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Gerry;
>>>>>
>>>>>If you don't have a slipstreamed cd or if you don't have one at all
>>>>>(you only have a service partition or a "restoration" cd) you can just
>>>>>change the "SourcePath" in the registry and change the location of
>>>>>files so that SFC will look in the i386 folder instead of the cd.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.pchomecall.org.uk/support/sfc.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards;
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>Gerry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Roman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Before you move on regarding System File Checker. A lot of problems
>>>>>>resolve down to problematic drivers or memory. Where this is the case
>>>>>>you often do not know which it is so you work through the easier
>>>>>>solutions. If your Window XP CD contains the SP2 update using System
>>>>>>File Checker is an easy task. It's not easy if your original Windows
>>>>>>XP CD is pre SP2 as you need a slipstreamed CD to run System File
>>>>>>Checker. A slipstreamed CD is a CD where the contents of the original
>>>>>>XP CD and the SP2 update have been merged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>


From: John John on
Roman King wrote:

> BTW, does installing XP on "Dell" Computer requires typing in product key?
> I don't remember.

I don't know, someone else may have the answer.

John

From: John on
John John wrote:
> Roman King wrote:
>
>> BTW, does installing XP on "Dell" Computer requires typing in product
>> key? I don't remember.
>
> I don't know, someone else may have the answer.
>
> John
>

I do.
And yes, when you install XP, you must provide a product key.

Why?

Because when you activate Windows, the activation process detects whether you have already
installed XP with that product key. If so, then it will say 'This product has already being
activated'. That is because it thinks that you are installing XP on another computer, which
of course, is illegal.
From: John John on
John wrote:
> John John wrote:
>
>> Roman King wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, does installing XP on "Dell" Computer requires typing in product
>>> key? I don't remember.
>>
>>
>> I don't know, someone else may have the answer.
>>
>> John
>>
>
> I do.
> And yes, when you install XP, you must provide a product key.
>
> Why?
>
> Because when you activate Windows, the activation process detects
> whether you have already installed XP with that product key. If so, then
> it will say 'This product has already being activated'. That is because
> it thinks that you are installing XP on another computer, which of
> course, is illegal.

With large OEM's and System Lock Preinstallation (SLP) activation is not
required, so I don't know if you are required to key in the Product ID
number if you install on Dells when you use a BIOS locked cd. If you
say yes then I trust you have experience with Dell systems concerning
this issue. I have some IBM Intellistations here and when I reinstall
the operating systems using the Service Partition or the IBM restore
disks, I do not need to enter the product ID numbers, nor do I need to
activate after installation. I haste to point however that the
installation does not use real OEM (Windows) cd, they use "Recovery
Disks" or the Service Partition.

John
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