From: Justin on
On 06/10/2010 09:59 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
> On 06-10-2010 16:57, Justin wrote:
>> I'm looking for a way to share a wireless Internet connection using my
>> MBP running Snow Leopard. The problem is, I don't have Ethernet access.
>> The Internet connection is *all* 802.11.
>> I figure I can get one of those USB 802.11 adapters, use one to share
>> the connection, and the other to receive. So my first question is, which
>> one should I get?
>>
>> So basically my goal is to share the Airport Connection, using the
>> second USB connection. Can I do that?
>
> Insuficient data. MBP and what? MBP has an Ethernet port,
> so you are saying the "what" doesn't?

MBP and a few other machines - some are Macs some are Windows 7.
The hotel won't have an ethernet port so I can't share the ehternet port
connection.

>
> Is there a financial limit?

It depends on what I can accomplish with as little money as possible.

>
> If "what" has ethernet, use a crossover cable or two cables
> and a switch to connect MBP to "what" Configure NAT on MBP.

I can't connect two machines using cable if they are in two different
rooms. The last thing I want to do it turn my hotel room into a mini
Internet cafe.

>
> If "what" has no ethernet port, connect a WiFi AP to the
> Macbook Pro's Ethernet. Set it to a different channel,
> different SSID from the hotel's.
>
> Now my knowledge gets fuzzy. In both these scenarios, I think,
> the MBP is a router with NAT. So the hotel will not see a
> second IP address, and will not need another login?

Correct.

>
> Unless it's working by cookies or session IDs.
>

that's correct.
From: nospam on
In article <hus6kq$sjr$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:

> >> Hence I'm thinking of using another USB 802.11 adapter other than the
> >> built in Airport.
> >
> > Get an Airport Express. It should do the job for you.
>
> Ah ha, now we're getting somewhere.
> Can the Airport Express get an IP address wirelessly, and share that
> connection wirelessly to other machines?

no, an airport express can only bridge to ethernet or the reverse.

you want a linksys wtr54gs (not a wrt54gs, a totally different
product). it's about the size of an ipod classic and can rebroadcast
any wifi network, or wired. it's completely self-contained with a built
in retractable plug, so no separate power adapter is needed.
unfortunately, it's been discontinued by linksys but they're still
available on ebay.
From: Justin on
On 06/10/2010 11:29 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article<hus6kq$sjr$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
> <justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Hence I'm thinking of using another USB 802.11 adapter other than the
>>>> built in Airport.
>>>
>>> Get an Airport Express. It should do the job for you.
>>
>> Ah ha, now we're getting somewhere.
>> Can the Airport Express get an IP address wirelessly, and share that
>> connection wirelessly to other machines?
>
> no, an airport express can only bridge to ethernet or the reverse.
>
> you want a linksys wtr54gs (not a wrt54gs, a totally different
> product). it's about the size of an ipod classic and can rebroadcast
> any wifi network, or wired. it's completely self-contained with a built
> in retractable plug, so no separate power adapter is needed.
> unfortunately, it's been discontinued by linksys but they're still
> available on ebay.

Ah ha!
Thanks, sounds like thats the product I need. Simply solution - no need
to have a laptop on all the time either.
Hopefully it will work with the kind of network where you have to log
in. From what I read thats what its designed to do.
From: nospam on
In article <husbbp$o1f$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
<justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:

> > you want a linksys wtr54gs (not a wrt54gs, a totally different
> > product). it's about the size of an ipod classic and can rebroadcast
> > any wifi network, or wired. it's completely self-contained with a built
> > in retractable plug, so no separate power adapter is needed.
> > unfortunately, it's been discontinued by linksys but they're still
> > available on ebay.
>
> Ah ha!
> Thanks, sounds like thats the product I need. Simply solution - no need
> to have a laptop on all the time either.
> Hopefully it will work with the kind of network where you have to log
> in. From what I read thats what its designed to do.

it works great with hotel wifi networks. just plug it in any outlet and
you now have your *own* personal wifi network blanketing the room,
which you can configure any way you want, with no cables *at all*. you
can set up whatever security you want, or none at all. it's also a lot
more sensitive than the wifi in a mac laptop, so you will not need to
worry about weak signals anywhere near as much.

it has one major drawback (other than being discontinued) in that it
can only join wifi networks that do not require a password. that makes
sense from a security standpoint, because someone could potentially
turn a closed network into an open network just by plugging this thing
in.

fortunately, nearly all hotel networks are open, with a splash page to
log in. that splash page will get passed to your laptop and you can log
in from there, with the linksys being seen by the hotel network. you
can also change the mac address of the linksys, just in case.
From: Justin on
On 06/10/2010 11:58 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article<husbbp$o1f$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Justin
> <justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>
>>> you want a linksys wtr54gs (not a wrt54gs, a totally different
>>> product). it's about the size of an ipod classic and can rebroadcast
>>> any wifi network, or wired. it's completely self-contained with a built
>>> in retractable plug, so no separate power adapter is needed.
>>> unfortunately, it's been discontinued by linksys but they're still
>>> available on ebay.
>>
>> Ah ha!
>> Thanks, sounds like thats the product I need. Simply solution - no need
>> to have a laptop on all the time either.
>> Hopefully it will work with the kind of network where you have to log
>> in. From what I read thats what its designed to do.
>
> it works great with hotel wifi networks. just plug it in any outlet and
> you now have your *own* personal wifi network blanketing the room,
> which you can configure any way you want, with no cables *at all*. you
> can set up whatever security you want, or none at all. it's also a lot
> more sensitive than the wifi in a mac laptop, so you will not need to
> worry about weak signals anywhere near as much.

There are a few imitations that are cheaper I might check out those as
well, but I'll go for the Linksys first.

>
> it has one major drawback (other than being discontinued) in that it
> can only join wifi networks that do not require a password. that makes
> sense from a security standpoint, because someone could potentially
> turn a closed network into an open network just by plugging this thing
> in.

Most networks with theis pash page are unsecured. Besiced when one does
banking it should be done over its own encryption. I won't do VPN, but
I will probably do some sFTP, scp and some IRC. I'm old school.
I don't do torrents.

>
> fortunately, nearly all hotel networks are open, with a splash page to
> log in. that splash page will get passed to your laptop and you can log
> in from there, with the linksys being seen by the hotel network. you
> can also change the mac address of the linksys, just in case.

Most hotel syaadmins won't understand that aspect, but its nice to know
it can be changed.