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From: J French on 28 Nov 2006 03:06 On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:18:57 GMT, Shell <drshell(a)mindspring.com> wrote: <snip> >Thank you much Neila, and <g> thanks for the obvious too Steve. > >What gets me is how MS hides (by not fully describing) their API's >usages. I've got the API Guide v3.7, but it showed only the example >MS uses for getting the "properties" form under the ShellExecuteEx. If you don't have it, then download this : www.jerryfrench.co.uk/utils/win32sdk.zip It is the Win32 Programmer's Reference Help File It is quite old, but I use it as my first point of call when researching APIs
From: Shell on 28 Nov 2006 17:47 In response to the post: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:06:20 GMT, erewhon(a)nowhere.uk (J French) stated...and I replied: >If you don't have it, then download this : > >www.jerryfrench.co.uk/utils/win32sdk.zip > >It is the Win32 Programmer's Reference Help File > >It is quite old, but I use it as my first point of call when >researching APIs Yea, I've had the SDK for quite a while now. It has no more info than the other MS publications. I think one of the main problems with the MS docs is that they don't use "real life" examples. I can't see why anyone would want to pop up a Properties window for a file from a program. A more realistic use would have been to give an example of opening a document with the associated application...but that's MHO. In addition to all those things I've learned up to now, I've just discovered the API Viewer (I know it's been there all along, but I never really looked it over until now). It not only has the Declares, but also the Types and Constants used in each API listed. The problem? Well, it also doesn't describe the useage or give any examples...Good thing we have people like you who frequent and respond in these groups. I know it's lost its lustor and most of the effect, but again THANKS!!! <g> Shell
From: J French on 29 Nov 2006 03:50 On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:47:24 GMT, Shell <drshell(a)mindspring.com> wrote: <snip> >Yea, I've had the SDK for quite a while now. It has no more info than >the other MS publications. I think one of the main problems with the >MS docs is that they don't use "real life" examples. I can't see why >anyone would want to pop up a Properties window for a file from a >program. A more realistic use would have been to give an example of >opening a document with the associated application...but that's MHO. >In addition to all those things I've learned up to now, I've just >discovered the API Viewer (I know it's been there all along, but I >never really looked it over until now). It not only has the Declares, >but also the Types and Constants used in each API listed. The >problem? Well, it also doesn't describe the useage or give any >examples...Good thing we have people like you who frequent and respond >in these groups. Do you have the downloadable API Guide (packed with examples) from http://www.mentalis.org/agnet/ That is my second port of call when figuring out APIs There is also a fair number of sites with canned examples - Randy Birch's http://vbnet.mvps.org/ is very good
From: Shell on 29 Nov 2006 22:25 In response to the post: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:50:38 GMT, erewhon(a)nowhere.uk (J French) stated...and I replied: >Do you have the downloadable API Guide (packed with examples) from >http://www.mentalis.org/agnet/ > >That is my second port of call when figuring out APIs > >There is also a fair number of sites with canned examples >- Randy Birch's http://vbnet.mvps.org/ >is very good > Well, now that I've looked it over I have the latest API Viewer (from AllAPI?). I've had the Guide (v3.7) for some time and you're right, it is a great source for examples of usage. I've also been to Randy's site, not the vbnet one though, http://vb.mvps.org/ Randy has been a real help on many occasions...even when he was fooling around with those famous one-liners. <g> I learned to program in high school (in '72) with a made up ASM style language where we were taught logic puzzles. I made a career out of it with the Navy, coding COBOL on Univac 1100 systems. I've only, in the last 6 years, started programming in VB (5 then 6). So I've had to pretty much throw away all that old stuff and learn all new. This group has been my biggest resource for that. One thing I learned long ago is that I'll never stop learning...or at least when I do I'll be dead ;) Shell
From: neilanessa on 30 Nov 2006 02:01
Shell wrote: > In response to the post: > On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:50:38 GMT, erewhon(a)nowhere.uk (J French) > stated...and I replied: > > >Do you have the downloadable API Guide (packed with examples) from > >http://www.mentalis.org/agnet/ > > > >That is my second port of call when figuring out APIs > > > >There is also a fair number of sites with canned examples > >- Randy Birch's http://vbnet.mvps.org/ > >is very good > > > > Well, now that I've looked it over I have the latest API Viewer (from > AllAPI?). I've had the Guide (v3.7) for some time and you're right, > it is a great source for examples of usage. I've also been to Randy's > site, not the vbnet one though, http://vb.mvps.org/ Randy has been a > real help on many occasions...even when he was fooling around with > those famous one-liners. <g> > > I learned to program in high school (in '72) with a made up ASM style > language where we were taught logic puzzles. I made a career out of > it with the Navy, coding COBOL on Univac 1100 systems. I've only, in > the last 6 years, started programming in VB (5 then 6). So I've had > to pretty much throw away all that old stuff and learn all new. This > group has been my biggest resource for that. One thing I learned long > ago is that I'll never stop learning...or at least when I do I'll be > dead ;) > > Shell COBOL: I think I got one of those from Santa last year! |