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From: JW on 8 Jul 2010 07:36 On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:40:15 -0700 John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in Message id: <19i936d8s89amglk2ohfdgqei711nga6fg(a)4ax.com>: >Shunts usually self-heat, which adds a nonlinearity to the power >measurement. So it's worth getting ones with a low TC. Why not use a 4 wire shunt?
From: John Larkin on 8 Jul 2010 09:54 On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:36:08 -0400, JW <none(a)dev.null> wrote: >On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:40:15 -0700 John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in Message id: ><19i936d8s89amglk2ohfdgqei711nga6fg(a)4ax.com>: > >>Shunts usually self-heat, which adds a nonlinearity to the power >>measurement. So it's worth getting ones with a low TC. > >Why not use a 4 wire shunt? Sure. But that doesn't help the self-heating/TC problem. If you're working with DC, you can have thermocouple potential problems, too. John
From: AM on 8 Jul 2010 10:14 On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:54:49 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:36:08 -0400, JW <none(a)dev.null> wrote: > >>On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:40:15 -0700 John Larkin >><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in Message id: >><19i936d8s89amglk2ohfdgqei711nga6fg(a)4ax.com>: >> >>>Shunts usually self-heat, which adds a nonlinearity to the power >>>measurement. So it's worth getting ones with a low TC. >> >>Why not use a 4 wire shunt? > >Sure. But that doesn't help the self-heating/TC problem. If you're >working with DC, you can have thermocouple potential problems, too. > >John > > Use the "Z" alloy.
From: John Larkin on 8 Jul 2010 10:22 On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:14:10 -0700, AM <thisthatandtheother(a)beherenow.org> wrote: >On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:54:49 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:36:08 -0400, JW <none(a)dev.null> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:40:15 -0700 John Larkin >>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in Message id: >>><19i936d8s89amglk2ohfdgqei711nga6fg(a)4ax.com>: >>> >>>>Shunts usually self-heat, which adds a nonlinearity to the power >>>>measurement. So it's worth getting ones with a low TC. >>> >>>Why not use a 4 wire shunt? >> >>Sure. But that doesn't help the self-heating/TC problem. If you're >>working with DC, you can have thermocouple potential problems, too. >> >>John >> >> > > Use the "Z" alloy. It's expensive and hard to get, and I don't think we could photo-etch it. John
From: Spehro Pefhany on 8 Jul 2010 10:33 On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:14:10 -0700, AM <thisthatandtheother(a)beherenow.org> wrote: >On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:54:49 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:36:08 -0400, JW <none(a)dev.null> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:40:15 -0700 John Larkin >>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in Message id: >>><19i936d8s89amglk2ohfdgqei711nga6fg(a)4ax.com>: >>> >>>>Shunts usually self-heat, which adds a nonlinearity to the power >>>>measurement. So it's worth getting ones with a low TC. >>> >>>Why not use a 4 wire shunt? >> >>Sure. But that doesn't help the self-heating/TC problem. If you're >>working with DC, you can have thermocouple potential problems, too. >> >>John >> >> > > Use the "Z" alloy. This stuff looks pretty nice: http://www.isabellenhuette.de/pdf/WIDER_LEG/ZERANIN-ISABELLENHUETTE-R.pdf
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