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From: Pete Stavrakoglou on 26 Jul 2010 16:44 "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message news:4c4103af$1$5486$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... > "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message > news:fik146l055tvtokiq1drpod63tnpghahem(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:46:32 -0700, "Mr. Strat" <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> >> wrote: >> : In article >> : <49d5c14b-019a-4a26-a30e-0194398c73c9(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, >> : RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> : >> : > $1000 for a fast kit zoom? Are they insane? As much as an Olympus >> : > 12-60 (which would destroy the Sigma in every performance area). >> : >> : If people would just avoid Sigma products, they'd be much better off. >> >> And yet the Sigma lenses I own have performed very well. Is that because >> I'm >> one of the few people smart enough to know which are the good ones? Or >> because >> Sigma's QC problems have been greatly exaggerated by Sigma's competitors >> and >> their fanboys? > > > Tomorrow I will have the chance to play with any Sigma lenses I want to. > From what I saw today, they seem very well made. But, I will try a few. > > -- > Peter Would this by chance have been at Sigma USA's location? If so, the next time you go you must let me know. I work within a five-minute drive from there.
From: Pete Stavrakoglou on 26 Jul 2010 16:46 "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message news:p2g3469a5rnsod9afae2boabgbb6hpf4qh(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:09:05 +1200, Me <user(a)domain.invalid> wrote: > : On 16/07/2010 10:22 a.m., RichA wrote: > : > $1000 for a fast kit zoom? Are they insane? As much as an Olympus > : > 12-60 (which would destroy the Sigma in every performance area). > : > > : > http://dpreview.com/news/1007/10071501sigma1750mm.asp > : Sigma MSRP is almost meaningless, except that you can guess street price > : will be about 60% +/- 10% of MSRP. > : You also just assume that an Olympus 4/3 lens will be "better in every > : performance area", but you have no data at all on which to base that > : assumption. So perhaps it's you who is insane? > > Adorama doesn't have it, but says they'd sell it for $669 if they did. B&H > and > Hunt's don't appear to have heard of it yet. > > I once paid about $700 for a Sigma telephoto, and so far it's been worth > it. > But $670 for a 3rd-party walking-around lens does seem pretty steep. > Sigma's > previous walker, the 18-50mm f/2.8, goes for about $250 less. Maybe > they're > trying to hold the price up until they run out of the old one. > > Bob The 17-50 has OS and also a new type of glass that is suppossed to be similar to Canon's flourite glass. Those two things will account for the higher price compared to an older model like the 18-50mm EX.
From: Peter on 26 Jul 2010 20:11 "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message news:i2ks32$jaj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message > news:4c4103af$1$5486$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... >> "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message >> news:fik146l055tvtokiq1drpod63tnpghahem(a)4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:46:32 -0700, "Mr. Strat" >>> <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> >>> wrote: >>> : In article >>> : <49d5c14b-019a-4a26-a30e-0194398c73c9(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, >>> : RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> : >>> : > $1000 for a fast kit zoom? Are they insane? As much as an Olympus >>> : > 12-60 (which would destroy the Sigma in every performance area). >>> : >>> : If people would just avoid Sigma products, they'd be much better off. >>> >>> And yet the Sigma lenses I own have performed very well. Is that because >>> I'm >>> one of the few people smart enough to know which are the good ones? Or >>> because >>> Sigma's QC problems have been greatly exaggerated by Sigma's competitors >>> and >>> their fanboys? >> >> >> Tomorrow I will have the chance to play with any Sigma lenses I want to. >> From what I saw today, they seem very well made. But, I will try a few. >> >> -- >> Peter > > Would this by chance have been at Sigma USA's location? If so, the next > time you go you must let me know. I work within a five-minute drive from > there. I went to the annual NECCC conference at Amherst, MA. Sigma had a booth with a bunch of their lenses on display, which participants could borrow for a an hour or two. I tried, without success to convince the rep that the 800 was much too heavy and I world be happy to carry it home for her. I promised to return it in less than two years. Here I was being gallant to a nice young lady and she would not accept my help. Seriously, where are they located? It sound like a nice idea, especially since I am semi retired. -- Peter
From: Pete Stavrakoglou on 27 Jul 2010 08:06 "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message news:4c4e2528$0$5544$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... > "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message > news:i2ks32$jaj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message >> news:4c4103af$1$5486$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... >>> "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message >>> news:fik146l055tvtokiq1drpod63tnpghahem(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:46:32 -0700, "Mr. Strat" >>>> <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> : In article >>>> : <49d5c14b-019a-4a26-a30e-0194398c73c9(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, >>>> : RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> : >>>> : > $1000 for a fast kit zoom? Are they insane? As much as an Olympus >>>> : > 12-60 (which would destroy the Sigma in every performance area). >>>> : >>>> : If people would just avoid Sigma products, they'd be much better off. >>>> >>>> And yet the Sigma lenses I own have performed very well. Is that >>>> because I'm >>>> one of the few people smart enough to know which are the good ones? Or >>>> because >>>> Sigma's QC problems have been greatly exaggerated by Sigma's >>>> competitors and >>>> their fanboys? >>> >>> >>> Tomorrow I will have the chance to play with any Sigma lenses I want to. >>> From what I saw today, they seem very well made. But, I will try a few. >>> >>> -- >>> Peter >> >> Would this by chance have been at Sigma USA's location? If so, the next >> time you go you must let me know. I work within a five-minute drive from >> there. > > > I went to the annual NECCC conference at Amherst, MA. Sigma had a booth > with a bunch of their lenses on display, which participants could borrow > for a an hour or two. I tried, without success to convince the rep that > the 800 was much too heavy and I world be happy to carry it home for her. > I promised to return it in less than two years. Here I was being gallant > to a nice young lady and she would not accept my help. > > Seriously, where are they located? It sound like a nice idea, especially > since I am semi retired. > > > > -- > Peter LOL! Chivalry is dead. Sigma USA is in Ronkonkoma right off of Vets Hwy.
From: Peter on 27 Jul 2010 08:30
"Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message news:i2mi4k$pqn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message > news:4c4e2528$0$5544$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... >> "Pete Stavrakoglou" <ntotrr(a)optonline.net> wrote in message >> news:i2ks32$jaj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message >>> news:4c4103af$1$5486$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... >>>> "Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message >>>> news:fik146l055tvtokiq1drpod63tnpghahem(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:46:32 -0700, "Mr. Strat" >>>>> <rag(a)nospam.techline.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> : In article >>>>> : <49d5c14b-019a-4a26-a30e-0194398c73c9(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, >>>>> : RichA <rander3127(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> : >>>>> : > $1000 for a fast kit zoom? Are they insane? As much as an >>>>> Olympus >>>>> : > 12-60 (which would destroy the Sigma in every performance area). >>>>> : >>>>> : If people would just avoid Sigma products, they'd be much better >>>>> off. >>>>> >>>>> And yet the Sigma lenses I own have performed very well. Is that >>>>> because I'm >>>>> one of the few people smart enough to know which are the good ones? Or >>>>> because >>>>> Sigma's QC problems have been greatly exaggerated by Sigma's >>>>> competitors and >>>>> their fanboys? >>>> >>>> >>>> Tomorrow I will have the chance to play with any Sigma lenses I want >>>> to. From what I saw today, they seem very well made. But, I will try a >>>> few. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Peter >>> >>> Would this by chance have been at Sigma USA's location? If so, the next >>> time you go you must let me know. I work within a five-minute drive >>> from there. >> >> >> I went to the annual NECCC conference at Amherst, MA. Sigma had a booth >> with a bunch of their lenses on display, which participants could borrow >> for a an hour or two. I tried, without success to convince the rep that >> the 800 was much too heavy and I world be happy to carry it home for her. >> I promised to return it in less than two years. Here I was being gallant >> to a nice young lady and she would not accept my help. >> >> Seriously, where are they located? It sound like a nice idea, especially >> since I am semi retired. >> >> >> >> -- >> Peter > > LOL! Chivalry is dead. > > Sigma USA is in Ronkonkoma right off of Vets Hwy. Will they let visitors play with the lenses? -- Peter |