From: Roger Mills on
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Christof Meerwald <NOSPAM-seeMySig+um05+(a)usenet.cmeerw.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:21:28 -0000, Roger Mills wrote:
>
>> Can I mix and match SIMs? For example, if I buy 30 days worth for �5
>> on the phone, can I then put it's SIM into the dongle?
>
> Yes.
>

The subject of using a 3Pay SIM in a dongle to get mobile BB for �5 per
month rather than �10 (with the mobile BB SIM) has been discussed here
several times. It has generally been assumed that you need access to a PAYG
phone in order to top up the 3Pay SIM.

My recent experience suggests that you *don't*. Assuming that you've got a
dongle but no phone, this is what you do . . .

* Get a free 3Pay SIM via the link in Steve Terry's signature

* When it arrives, create a My3 account for it by using your regular -
landline or whatever - internet connection to go to three.co.uk, select My3
Account/Register Now, and enter the phone number and last 6 digits of the
SIM number

* When you have done that, 3 will send you a text message containing a
password - which you need in order to log on to the My3 account which you
have just created

Now the clever bit - how to retrieve the password? You would nornally put
the SIM in your phone, but you haven't got one! *But* what you *can* do is
to put the SIM in the dongle and connect it to your laptop. This will
connect to the internet and will allow you to access the text message via
the SMS tab in the connection window.

* Armed with this password, log on to the My3 account you have just created

* Select 'Set My Mobile' and tell them you've got a 3 Skyphone S2 - they
won't know the difference even if you haven't - you don't need any IMEI
numbers or anything

* Top up the SIM using a credit card [As soon as you register the card it
seems to grab �10 immediately. Unless anyone knows differently there doesn't
seem to be a way of doing an initial top-up of less than �10, even though
subsequent ones can be for �5?]

* Select 'Buy Add-ons' and convert part of the �10 balance into internet
access - 50p for a day, �2.50 for a week or �5 for a month

Topping up gets you other goodies - such as free 3 to 3 voice calls - which
you won't be able to use if you haven't got a phone, but it still provides
cheaper internet access for your laptop than topping up the dongle's
original SIM at �10 per month - particularly if you are only away from home
for the odd couple of days or a week. It also brings you free texts which
you *may* be able to use via Mobile BB's SMS feature - but I haven't tried
that yet.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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From: Steve Terry on
"Roger Mills" <watt.tyler(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:7qbbc4Fa1eU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Christof Meerwald <NOSPAM-seeMySig+um05+(a)usenet.cmeerw.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:21:28 -0000, Roger Mills wrote:
>>
>>> Can I mix and match SIMs? For example, if I buy 30 days worth for �5
>>> on the phone, can I then put it's SIM into the dongle?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> The subject of using a 3Pay SIM in a dongle to get mobile BB for �5 per
> month rather than �10 (with the mobile BB SIM) has been discussed here
> several times. It has generally been assumed that you need access to a
> PAYG phone in order to top up the 3Pay SIM.
>
> My recent experience suggests that you *don't*. Assuming that you've got a
> dongle but no phone, this is what you do . . .
>
> * Get a free 3Pay SIM via the link in Steve Terry's signature
>
> * When it arrives, create a My3 account for it by using your regular -
> landline or whatever - internet connection to go to three.co.uk, select
> My3 Account/Register Now, and enter the phone number and last 6 digits of
> the SIM number
>
> * When you have done that, 3 will send you a text message containing a
> password - which you need in order to log on to the My3 account which you
> have just created
>
> Now the clever bit - how to retrieve the password? You would nornally put
> the SIM in your phone, but you haven't got one! *But* what you *can* do is
> to put the SIM in the dongle and connect it to your laptop. This will
> connect to the internet and will allow you to access the text message via
> the SMS tab in the connection window.
>
> * Armed with this password, log on to the My3 account you have just
> created
>
> * Select 'Set My Mobile' and tell them you've got a 3 Skyphone S2 - they
> won't know the difference even if you haven't - you don't need any IMEI
> numbers or anything
>
> * Top up the SIM using a credit card [As soon as you register the card it
> seems to grab �10 immediately. Unless anyone knows differently there
> doesn't seem to be a way of doing an initial top-up of less than �10, even
> though subsequent ones can be for �5?]
>
> * Select 'Buy Add-ons' and convert part of the �10 balance into internet
> access - 50p for a day, �2.50 for a week or �5 for a month
>
> Topping up gets you other goodies - such as free 3 to 3 voice calls -
> which you won't be able to use if you haven't got a phone, but it still
> provides cheaper internet access for your laptop than topping up the
> dongle's original SIM at �10 per month - particularly if you are only away
> from home for the odd couple of days or a week. It also brings you free
> texts which you *may* be able to use via Mobile BB's SMS feature - but I
> haven't tried that yet.
> Cheers,
> Roger
>
>
Also make sure you are using the public APN of "3internet" not the fenced
one of "three.co.uk"
As amougst it's fenced limitations may be access to parts of the My3 account

Steve Terry
--
Get a free Three 3pay Sim with �2 bonus after �10 top up
http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276


From: Roger Mills on
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Steve Terry <gfourwwk(a)tesco.net> wrote:

>>
>>
> Also make sure you are using the public APN of "3internet" not the
> fenced one of "three.co.uk"
> As amougst it's fenced limitations may be access to parts of the My3
> account
> Steve Terry


How do I check that?
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Cheers,
Roger
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From: Theo Markettos on
In uk.telecom.broadband Steve Terry <gfourwwk(a)tesco.net> wrote:
> "Roger Mills" <watt.tyler(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:7qbbc4Fa1eU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> > The subject of using a 3Pay SIM in a dongle to get mobile BB for ?5 per
> > month rather than ?10 (with the mobile BB SIM) has been discussed here
> > several times. It has generally been assumed that you need access to a
> > PAYG phone in order to top up the 3Pay SIM.
> >
> > My recent experience suggests that you *don't*. Assuming that you've got
> > a dongle but no phone, this is what you do . . .

Thanks for that. I think it's also possible to do a topup via
http://mobile.three.co.uk/ - though I'm not sure about the registering a
credit card. Another alternative is to go to a cashpoint and choose phone
topup. I haven't tried this - anyone know if Three support that method of
topup?

> Also make sure you are using the public APN of "3internet" not the fenced
> one of "three.co.uk"
> As amougst it's fenced limitations may be access to parts of the My3 account

Yes, it is different, but in some respects it's better. I just posted some
details in the other thread on uk.telecom.mobile.

Theo
From: Jeremy Porteous on
"CJB" <chrisjbrady(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6266c209-c3eb-4e42-8100-f097429928dc(a)p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> Next project is to set up a system as mentioned in this thread to use
> Skype only. Thanks to
>
> "notes on the Skype Gateway technique used here:http://
> www.skypegateway.webs.com/ "

I've just tried to set up a system like this using my VOIP account with
Voipcheap. However, calls when then get forwarded via PBX on the Voipcheap
trunk are not free. They are marked FUP exceeded in the Voipcheap online
account. Is there a workaround, and does this apply to other products from
the Finarea range (like the Smartvoip recommended on this website)?

JP