From: Arun Dev on
Hi Federico and Mark

Am 30.01.2008 21:40, Mark South schrieb:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:35:25 +0100, Arun Dev wrote:
>>
>> BTW, I like the idea behind "Absolute Linux". In fact I was thinking of
>> trying Puppy Linux if there is a fundamental problem with Slack 12.
>
> From my experience, Absolute is a *lot* faster on the same hardware than
> Puppy. Paul put a lot of effort into minimising the footprint of
> Absolute and it shows.

I gave "abosolute" a try. Hey, the install script is almost the same
as Slack. But there was one difference, and that one killed my
effort. I didn't find a package selection menu. It is either you
want all or nothing. The "all" is according to a message 3 GB. So
as expected the installation bogged down after my 2 GB got full :-(

Pretty bad, on this lap top it took hours to get those 2 GB copied.

As I suspect hardware anyway, I'll do some checks before dumping the
whole exercise.

Thanks for all the pointers!

Arun
From: Arun Dev on
Am 31.01.2008 18:38, Ray schrieb:
> Arun Dev wrote:
>> Could it be a hardware problem after all?
>
> try downloading and running memtest, and letting it run for 72 hours.

I booted from a CD which has memtest (Memtest86+ v1.65) on it. I've
started the test a couple of minutes ago.


Arun
From: Mark South on
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:20:22 +0100, Arun Dev wrote:

> Hi Federico and Mark
>
> Am 30.01.2008 21:40, Mark South schrieb:
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:35:25 +0100, Arun Dev wrote:
>>>
>>> BTW, I like the idea behind "Absolute Linux". In fact I was thinking
>>> of trying Puppy Linux if there is a fundamental problem with Slack 12.
>>
>> From my experience, Absolute is a *lot* faster on the same hardware
>> than Puppy. Paul put a lot of effort into minimising the footprint of
>> Absolute and it shows.
>
> I gave "abosolute" a try. Hey, the install script is almost the same as
> Slack. But there was one difference, and that one killed my effort. I
> didn't find a package selection menu. It is either you want all or
> nothing. The "all" is according to a message 3 GB. So as expected the
> installation bogged down after my 2 GB got full :-(

Yeah, it is all or nothing, no choice of kernel either. Sorry to have
not noticed your disk constraints.

> Pretty bad, on this lap top it took hours to get those 2 GB copied.

See, this is why you need several different systems under your desk :-)

> As I suspect hardware anyway, I'll do some checks before dumping the
> whole exercise.

If your memory and disk space are so severely limited, I could only
suggest that you try NetBSD, which will definitely not be resource
limited in 64MB and 2GB. Read the NetBSD FAQ before doing anything.

> Thanks for all the pointers!

Hope it's been of some help, at least.
From: Arun Dev on
Hi all

Am 31.01.2008 20:03, Arun Dev schrieb:
> Am 31.01.2008 18:38, Ray schrieb:
>>
>> try downloading and running memtest, and letting it run for 72 hours.
>
> I booted from a CD which has memtest (Memtest86+ v1.65) on it. I've
> started the test a couple of minutes ago.

If I knew what the expected outcome is!
;-[

Now (about 14h later) the screen stands still
---
Memtest86+ Pass 17% #####
Pentium-MMX 266.7 MHz Test 47% #################
L1 Cache: 16K 127 MB/s Test #4 [Moving inversions, random pattern]
L2 Cache: Unknown Testing: 108K - 64M 64M
Memory: 64M 110MB/s Pattern: 75394bd2
Chipset:

WallTime 2:26:26
Cached 64M
RsvdMem 56K
MemMap e820-Std
Cache on
ECC off
Test Std
Pass 4
Error 0
Ecc Errs
---

What does that horoscope mean?

Arun
From: Mark South on
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:07:08 +0100, Arun Dev wrote:

> Memtest86+ Pass 17% #####
....
> WallTime 2:26:26
> Cached 64M
> RsvdMem 56K
> MemMap e820-Std
> Cache on
> ECC off
> Test Std
> Pass 4
> Error 0
> Ecc Errs
> ---
>
> What does that horoscope mean?

It ran through the test cycle 3 times without showing an error, and
that's good, but 17% of the way through the 4th pass the machine locked
up. I see from the clock that it ran tests for 2 hours and 26 minutes
before locking. Lockups are not unknown with memtest, since it is
messing with the memory after all. The fact that no errors were detected
is a good thing, but it may be that the lockup was caused by a memory
error due to the stress of the testing.

I'd recommend runnng memtest again and checking that the walltime clock
is still running every hour or so.
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